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Narcissism Thread
Anonymous
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No.3866
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Hey /üb/, how much do you know about Narcissism?
I'd like to direct your attention to Dr. Ramani Dursavula - clinical psychologist, professor at CSU LA, author, youtuber etc, and arguably the leading authority on Narcissism.
The problem with Narcissism as a clinical disorder is that it doesnt bear any of the classical signs of a disorder; the people who bear the symptoms of a narcissistic relationship are not the narcissist themselves, but the people around them. The problem is exacerbated by the fact that narcissists are over-represented in otherwise successful, prestigious, and competitive professions, fields, and careers, effectively calling into question the idea of dysfunction and disorder.
Narcissistic abuse is real, and it's a problem that is not getting any better by the cultural shifts brought about by mass media and technology. What's more, it isnt just the narcissist one has to be on the lookout for, there are plenty of people out their doing the bidding (they're called 'flying monkeys', ala the Wizard of Oz) of narcissists.
Arguably the worst trait of narcissists and those who work on their behalf is that of Gaslighting, which is the deliberate undermining of a person, their perspective/experience, reputation and standing, and other social interactions.
As an easy example, let's look at CNN. Let's assume for a moment that Brian Stelter, Rachel Maddow, Chris Quomo and Don Lemon arent malignant narcissists. I know, but bear with me.
It doesnt matter for those mentioned to not be narcissists if their job is to gaslight on behalf of Jeff Zucker. And what are some examples of gaslighting? Russian hackers, Quid pro quo, Epstein killed himself, Hunyer Biden, and of course muh Covid. A person can be gaslit hundreds or even thousands of times a day just by watching the TV, and that says nothing about their interpersonal interactions.
Let's look at things from a broader scope, and I'll throw out a few names. Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Er8c Schmidt. How many times has one or more of their companies abused one or more individuals on their platform, and has publically denied it even in the face of evidence?
The purpose of this thread is to provide examples of narcissism as well as resources and information that can enable a gradually emerging /üb/erpony to better navigate the world and some of the more nefarious players they may come into contact with. To start things off, here are some good primer videos to broach the subject, by Dr Ramani. She has hundreds of videos ranging from 6-20+ depending on how deep she goes with each topic, all relating ultimately to Narcissism, abuse, awareness, and healing. As one who has lived with narcissistic abuse for years and am only now becoming better able to identify/detect and mitigate the presence and practices of narcissists (most especially malignant ones), my hope is that the content is as informative and actionable to the viewer as I have found it.
https://youtu.be/o8U321uCcvc
https://youtu.be/B9knwjZTaOU
https://youtu.be/d79qPeIt1GY
https://youtu.be/UTS5XsZe9Jg
https://youtu.be/lLsH2NJD1Vo
https://youtu.be/trh_eTkZLeU
https://youtu.be/8S5BtjpF9dA
https://youtu.be/qbFBOAmmu7Y
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Anonymous
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You're an idiot, Starscream..gif
Starscream from Transformers is the perfect example of a true narcissist, he is highly selfish and deceptive with his own goals as his first and foremost important above the lives or interests of anything else. His egotistical self importance matters more than whether his incompetent leadership is successful.
Anonymous
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No.5078
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>>5076
There is no 'perfect example' of a narcissist, and a cartoon for an example is of little use as its a caricature.
If you want a glaring contemporary example, look at Juicy Sommoulier. Or Alec Baldwin. Or Nigel.
Anonymous
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No.5081
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>>5076
How is starscream a narcissist?
Anonymous
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>>5081
Starscream is as much of a narcissist as Tigger from Winnie-the-Pooh. Its counter produtive and muddies the water to psychologically analyze fictional characters, as everything of them is literally dictated by the author.
But for those who wish to, I found a video that should appeal for a variety of reasons.
https://youtu.be/N5E_v_jGDq8
Anonymous
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No.5085
For further clarity, Starscream is a caricature of what passes contemporaneously as a narcissist in popular culture. The depiction of narcissism as having an overblown sense of vanity and self-importance isnt inaccurate, but Starscream is far more in the neighborhood of a borderline personality, in that he cant differentiate between what will benefit his agenda versus what will satisfy his ego. While this is a behavior pattern observable in SOME narcissists, it has alot of overlap with other disorders and condititons, and a determination based only on those characteristics is premature and invalid.
Tl;dr Starscream is as 'perfect' an example of narcissism, as Ginger Beer is of what different flavors of soda taste like.
Anonymous
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No.5086
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>>5078
How often do you feel the urge to remind people Trump is blonde? You would not have spent five years reminding people you think I am a narcissist if you did not feel it was necessary to wear them down over the years before they agree with you.
>inb4 "denouncing nigel isn't off topic but it is off-topic for him to reply with anything"
In any case, while fictitious characters can display traits of real-world mental problems, an authentic depiction of these problems rarely takes priority over the story being told with these characters. People are still arguing over whether Powder/Jinx from Arcane has schizophrenia and PTSD or bipolar/borderline personality disorder or abandonment issues and whether her clingy behaviour pre-Jokerfication behaviour means anything.
Anonymous
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>>5086
I havent promoted the idea of you being a narcissist (an idea that seems so overwhelmingly consistent with the literature that even I as an unlicensed individual can make the determination) except for the last year and a half.
Stop lying.
I havent worn anyone down.
Stop lying.
I HAVE however, strategically explained your behavior (directly and indirectly) for sufficient consistency and duration, achieving comprehensiveness such that people who used to disagree and contest can now only accede to the accuracy of the overview I have detailed. Moreover, I havent even argued the point, I've taken the time to assert authortative info at interval and have allowed the content (and your behavior, thanks for that) to argue on my behalf.
Next, Trump ISNT blonde, at least not naturally. He used to have dark hair, so any appearance of blond is artificial; whether hair implants, dyes and treatments, I neither know nor care.

Now then
>In any case, while fictitious characters can display traits of real-world mental problems, an authentic depiction of these problems rarely takes priority over the story being told with these characters. People are still arguing over whether Powder/Jinx from Arcane has schizophrenia and PTSD or bipolar/borderline personality disorder or abandonment issues and whether her clingy behaviour pre-Jokerfication behaviour means anything.
Please explain how this is in any way on topic.
Anonymous
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>>5078
>There is no 'perfect example' of a narcissist, and a cartoon for an example is of little use as its a caricature.
I believe that fictional representations of narcissism is worthy of consideration than that of real people who are insufferably full of themselves, since a character is more of a canvas for what a narcissist could be rather than actually is, such as Starscream. Even Megatron could be classed as having similar features but more so to a further extreme.
Either that or one can completely disregard any and all characters that aren't real for the sole purpose that they do not exist.
>If you want a glaring contemporary example, look at Nigel.
Of course this place has it's very own self obsessed attention addicts, him and several anons here exhibit such personalities.
>>5081
I'm referring to the original Generation 1 Starscream, by the design of him he is obviously cunning and has ulterior motives that are fueled by his own desires. If you wish to differ than that is by your own personal choice of disagreement.
Anonymous
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No.5092
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>a character is more of a canvas for what a narcissist could be rather than actually is, such as Starscream
I encourage everyone to marvel in that amalgamated phrase. I dont know, but it it is amazing.
Meanwhile, reminder that this is the Narcissism thread, geared toward providing actionable information and material of/pertaining-to narcissists, and NOT trying to tag random cartoons with otherwise definitive and severe terms to muddy the water, waste everyone's time, or otherwise insert an unwarranted (((nose))) into the mix.
Anonymous
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>somebody had to rope Nigel into what was otherwise an informative conversation
It's all so tiresome.

pic unrelated
Anonymous
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No.5094
>>5090
I know I shouldn't give you the time of day if you're going to talk to me like that. I know it's "feeding the troll" to waste my time trying to reason with somebody in this state. You're shit-slinging hysterically again, trying to wear everyone down again, hoping it will upset me. Maybe you'll feel validated if somebody joins in on your shit-slinging by calling me a faggot, how tiresome. I don't have to explain why you're wrong. But fuck it, your bait is just too fucking stupid. Might as well get this over with.

Allow me to explain.

It would not matter if Starscream was or was not a good example of narcissism. And he is not a good example, because he is a one-note meme character to sell pieces of plastic to little boys and bad movies to boomers who want to cum inside Megan Fox. Replying to a topic conversation someone else is derailing not mean I am posting off-topic, especially not when I am trying to get the topic back on topic. When a writer writes a story about something other than mental illnesses, accurately depicting the mental illness is not the author's top priority. The topic of whether a toy-selling cartoon character depicts a mental illness accurately or not, or even the pop-culture nigger's view of it(which nobody was talking about) is irrelevant to a discussion on real-world narcissism, how to handle narcissists, how to deal with narcissists in the real world, and so on.

It's like blabbering about Phoenix Wright and How To Get Away With Murder in the middle of a discussion on real-world courtroom bullshit. Talk of narcissism in media is off topic in a thread about real-world narcissism and dealing with narcissistic people IRL.

You want to talk about TV? Does someone else want to talk about TV? Whoever brought up Starscream, do you really want to talk about TV shows on this site? There are shows about narcissism. There are shows with more narcissistic characters. There are shows with characters who personify real narcissism better. Like that bitch mom from Arrested Development, or whatshername from this video, the old hag of a mother. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Tg-OmOztM Starscream is a faggot who exists to suck and fail 99% of the time, just as the Decepticons exist to suck and fail and betray each other to make the heroes and their friendship and kindness look superior. Even though Optimus is kind of a bitch for letting his people die "nobly" instead of trying to make more of them like Negatron(At least I think that was the lore last time a gf candidate made me sit through a lore video). Loki is a better discussion topic for the pop-culture view of Narcissism as a trait intended to be "Endearing". Loki has the "Sanitized" pop-culture version of Narcissism where it serves as a character quirk rather than a character flaw. And isn't that a strange thing? Narcissism is something unhealthy. It's the sin of pride, really. And yet Hollywood loves to glamorize it as something the truly successful, stylish, cool characters are allowed to have because they've "earned" it.

There is also BBC's Sherlock, an obnoxious narcissistic prick who gets away with everything because he's a Gary Stu with bullshit Bat Deduction levels of "Intelligence", being an intelligent character written by retards who view "Intelligence" as something magical. If you want to talk about Narcissism In The Media, we can talk about it. Perhaps we could talk about it in a separate thread, specifically about Narcissism In The Media? I could rant about BBC's Shlock for hours, but I can't imagine anyone would want to see that here.
Anonymous
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No.5095
>>5093
I'm tired of that guy trying to drag me into shit-flinging contests too. Doesn't he have a job or life to get back to? And to think, he calls me the crazy one.
Anonymous
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No.5096
>>4763
>>Common phrases
>'I need you', 'I depend on you', 'I cant do this without you', etc., geared toward incrntivising, coercing, and guilt-tripping the targrt into compliance.
I've witnessed this in the behavior of people I've met who I anecdotally consider to have gone through narcissistic phases.
It's also a common behavior in domestic among abusers.
>>3957
The term "narcissist" might not be the best term, because it implies that the mentality is easily categorized. Narcissistic mindsets and behaviors can occur in varying degrees and for varying periods of time. There are people who behave narcissistic, people who do so chronically, and people who are painfully messed-up (this could be considered a narcissistic personality disorder). The problem with the term "narcissist" is that the concept of a negative label drives away the very people who need it the most to consider it for themselves.
Narcissist of any kind is a mental health struggle, and although any person can struggle with behaviors associated with narcissism, some struggle more than others.
The fact that you seem willing to ask it shows that you have the self-awareness to consider yourself one. In the end, the only person who can answer the question is you, through periods of self-reflection.
Instead of asking yourself if you are "a narcissist" consider asking yourself "How can I be less narcissistic?"
Anonymous
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No.5097
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>>5092
>I encourage everyone to marvel in that amalgamated phrase. I dont know, but it it is amazing.
You flatter me, it is simply my expression of interpretation.
>Meanwhile, reminder that this is the Narcissism thread, geared toward providing actionable information and material of/pertaining-to narcissists, and NOT trying to tag random cartoons with otherwise definitive
Of course this was never meant to be fixated solely on fictionalization of narcissism but instead the noticeable signs to look out for among everyday people that one may come across.
Anonymous
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>>5076
I don't really like using cartoons as examples of narcissists, because they're not really useful as examples, and it echoes reddit-tier Marvel/HP references in real life.
Especially Starstream, who is not only a non-human character, but a robot character who's inhuman mindset is an aspect of his concept. He is clearly meant to be narcissistic, but his narcissism isn't easily compared to real life people in any useful way.
Anonymous
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No.5100
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>>5098
>I don't really like using cartoons as examples of narcissists, because they're not really useful as examples, and it echoes reddit-tier Marvel/HP references in real life.
Suit yourself. In whatever manner the plebbit capeshit referencing has to do with this, it has no significance for it's mentioning because it is irrelevant to what is happening here.
>Especially Starstream, who is not only a non-human character, but a robot character who's inhuman mindset is an aspect of his concept.
Although it is very much akin to several other personas in the real word, like the other Transformers are characterized impersonations. This could go on and on yet it would invariably be a waste of time due to it's irrelevance to the baseline topic.
>He is clearly meant to be narcissistic, but his narcissism isn't easily compared to real life people in any useful way.
It boils down to whether someone can compare or not the similarities between fiction or reality in a useful manner to their own evaluation of other humans in a analytical way, not everyone can be easily deduced if their actions and words have not been thoroughly studied in retrospection.
Anonymous
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>Prof. Edward Dutton: The Jolly Heretic
>Can You Tell a Narcissist Just From His Eyebrows?
https://odysee.com/Can-You-Tell-a-Narcissist-Just-From-His-Eyebrows_:8
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4klZQhWCmZdX/
Anonymous
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No.5268
https://youtube.com/shorts/5QgcKDSdLDI?feature=share
Short video on the overall method and interpersonal dynamic with a narcissist
Anonymous
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No.5277
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The most glaring example of a narcissistic dynamic and how tox8c it can be that I could possibly ask for is the now-notorious scenario that culminatez with Will Smith bitch-slapping Chris Rock.
I'd like to say 'nuff said' since it would be preferable to going into detail about how this bitch is crazy and the real source for alot of the shit to do with the situation, but I will go deep into it if really desired. Theres just so much to cover, and yet I dont want to leave it at 'Iykyk'. I also dont want to have to go back and find all the memes and videos and photos which display the obvious (if youre looking) social, behavioral, body-language and facial tics, and other red flags/cues.
The sbort version is, she's a vulnerable narcissist in that relationship, which is only made worse by his overwhelming success. Im not calling him a victim, he made his bed and she slept with another man in it.
But you can see over-done gestures like pic 2, which can seem innocent enough by themselves but collectively paint a very predatory picture.
https://youtu.be/GNDel3YwsDk
Dont be Will Smith, they be hella Jada Pinkets out there.
Anonymous
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No.5325
https://youtu.be/Efua__7B7j4
If anons are interested in authentic fictitious depictions of narcissism
Anonymous
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No.5327
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>>5277
If you were will smith how would you have handled the situation?
Anonymous
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No.5352
>>5277
I think that whole situation is a shame. Guy gets in one little fight, and suddenly his wife is sending him off to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air.
Anonymous
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No.5353
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>>5327
>what would you do if you were a multi millionaire hollywood celebrity
Nigel, please. We all know you love intellectually-masturbatory questions of 'what if'. Kindly keep your masturbation to yourself.
Anonymous
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No.5354
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>>5353
Nigger
Anonymous
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No.5356
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>>5354
You were all talking about glorified niggers acting like niggers anyways.
Anonymous
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No.5357
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>>5356
>zero discernment
>cant see the narcissism, only sees the niggers
>mad about it
Some day, you will realize that the correct thing to do when you have nothing to say is to say nothing.
Anonymous
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No.5359
>>5357
>narcissism
Are these narcissists in the room with us right now?
Anonymous
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No.5360
5361
Wow, gaslighting in the Narcissism thread. How poetic
Anonymous
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No.5361
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>>5360
It's just me screwing around again, nothin' serious.
Anonymous
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No.5362
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>Its just a joke bro
This pretense was covered in narcissism 101. The ahort version is, you're full of shit and dont know how to act, so you veil your shitty demeanor in 'excusable'/'nonchalant' pretense.
(You) should fuck off.
Anonymous
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No.5363
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Would the poners tone it down a bit.
OP
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No.5364
>>5363
The topic hasnt changed, and neither will my posture. You intuit upset, where there is resolved opposition. The two are not the same.
Anonymous
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No.5365
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>>5363
In any case, am neither noigel, nor transformerfag. If anything, this is a bit hilarious from my perspective.
>>5362
Whatever you want to believe mate. I get why you reacted that way, don't worry.
Anonymous
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No.5366
5367
>>5365
>literally depicts narcissistic abuse in the literal narcissism thread
No one knows or cares who you are. If not for your posts, you wouldnt even register. Congrats, your only significance is shitposting on mlpol. Hope it was worth it.
Anonymous
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No.5367
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>>5366
You should calm down a bit. Others are trying to take advantage of my little push.
Anonymous
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No.5368
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>>5367
>Calm down
Yet more gaslighting. I suppose I should thank you for providing organic examples of a narcissist making excuses for themself? Any more examples you wish to provide? Perhaps you'd like to emphatically profess how your posts are a contribution? Or maybe you'll opt to play the coquette? In any case, if your previous is anything to go off of then you wont be able to resist depicting precisely what this thread was intended to illustrate, so by all means continue.
Anonymous
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No.5369
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>>5368
Literally backing you up over there, but alright.
Anonymous
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No.5370
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>>5369
Which one is backing me up? Is it this one?
>>5356
Maybe its this one?
>>5361
Or maybe you're the type pf fuck who backhands people and pretends its fond and appreciative?
Again, please keep posting. I tire of having to provide examples all on my own.
Anonymous
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No.5371
5372
This thread was cool until all of the shit flinging started.
Anonymous
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No.5372
>>5371
Funny how that happens
Anonymous
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No.5373
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>>5370
I might have refrained from further postin' if you hadn't reacted like a buffoon.
Also, I meant the pub's boogaloo thread here. >>5369
It might be hard to believe, but am not enjoying this. Please, it's time for you to reconsider.
Anonymous
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>>5373
Anonymous
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No.5375
>>5374
Shitposting aside, spare yourself; I reiterate the irony of engaging in narcissistic behavior - both attacks and rationalizations - in the narcissism thread.
https://youtu.be/BVHWTpi3c_I
Anonymous
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No.5376
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When people hear the word 'Narcissism', they often misconstrue it with Vainglory and Megalomania (technically synonymous). Media has done little service in promulgating this false perception, most notably through otherwise fictional depictions in TV and Movies.
Narcissism is not about vanity, though thats not to say that a narcissist can't be vain. It is about a mental predisposition toward the individual's desires and motivations, and the will to manipulate, coerce, and control others to fit their preference or agenda. For a narcissist, there is no question in their mind that they are correct in/for doing whatever they have convinced themself they are entitled to. Excepting in the case of a grandiose narcissist, most examples don't involve fawning over themselves and emphasizing their accomplishments, and as such a large percent of the population can't recognize narcissism for what it really is.
It really goes all the way back to the naming of the Narcissus flower; ostensibly named after a mythological character who fell in love with his own reflection and died gazing at it.
This story brings to mind the idea of an absolute love/fascination/fixation with one's self. And this is true for a clinical narcissist, but a bit of word parsing is necessary to get the right idea.
The self-love of both the Narcissist and the namesake is not amorous and idealized, its possessive and controlling.
Narcissus couldnt leave his reflection, not because he was in awe of his own beauty, but because in his self obsession he would not permit his own visage to leave his gaze.
The narcissism is not manifest in adoration, but in injurious control, even at the cost of his own life.
For this reason, a significant percent of people dont know they are dealing with a narcissist and not seeing their behavior as vanglorious, many narcissists can easily and readily rationalize their behavior as anything but what it actually is.
Anonymous
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No.5393
https://youtu.be/6B0tAn0nrJY
Anonymous
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No.5412
https://youtu.be/8kE1pe-E8WM
A particularly insightful video, though I'd say that about most videos ITT
Anonymous
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No.5462
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Anonymous
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No.5465
>>5462
So very, very this. Ive lost count of the number of times an active/potential abuser denounced me as being 'autistic', 'driven' (in an unhealthy context), 'fixated', 'obsessed', or any number of terms/phrases that at the end of the day amount/result to/of holding them accountable for their words and actions.
You know you're 0ver the target when you start taking flak.
Anonymous
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>Ender's Game
As much as can be said of narcissism, in preparation/response for them, many things can be said of their utility.
Conditioning of/by a malevolent narcissist can be the most elite training one can experience.
Peter was a narcissist. This plays out more in the books than the movie, but take my word for it.
And Ender. Ender is insurmountable, because he was subject to a narcissist during his formative years.
Anonymous
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No.5491
>>5462
Damn straight!
Anonymous
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No.5527
https://youtu.be/avWHSG4C-uU
>Is it possible to just 'get along' with a narcissist?
No, because 'getting along' with a narcissist means being willing to tolerate, abide, and allow for a narcissist's manipulations, expectatins and demands. The narcissist will never 'stop' playing their games nor maintaining their control of the situation, which among less confrontational people means that the narcissist's games are and become part of the status quo. The narcissist is entirely unwilling to relinquish any control they have over a g8ven situation ESPECIALLY on the topic of levelling the playing field or allowing others their own agency.
However one should be aware of the effect that being unwilling to play the narcissist's tune will have. Quite readily/immediatrly, the narcissist will turn perspective to castigate a person as being difficult, argumentative, unreasonable, etc. and people will readily go along with it, simply for having boundaries, for maintaining autonomy, and for being unwilling to be manipulated.
While not the best example, as it involves elements of borderline personality, look at the situation with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp; she abused him on a number of levels fornyears, butbwhen he finally had enough she turned around and accused him of precisely the abuse she had been inflicting on him.
And people STILL believe her, in spite of audio recordings, video, countless testimony from unbiased and otherwise uninvested witnesses, et al.
In a weird sense, one might suggest that manipulations and control methods are part of the narcissist's manifested integrity, in that it is integral to their presentation, and one which they will defend/deny (unless a suitable incentive - and I mean a literal incentive, not a conceptual or ideological one - outweighs whatever extant incentive that ordinarily governs their behavior) on principle, even in the face of incontravertable proof.
Anonymous
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No.5530
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How does clinical narcissism interact with Borderline Personality Disorder? They have a lot of similar symptoms.
A lot of people are aware of narcissism, but fewer people are aware of BPD.
Anonymous
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No.5531
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>>5530
To clarify, I mean that, like NPD, BPD individuals have some similar symptoms when it comes to relationships in that they may take grievances or gestures very personally:
>Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment.
>A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and evaluation
>Markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.
>Transient, stress-related paranoia or severe dissociative symptoms.
>Chronic feelings of emptiness
That's not to say that NPD and BPD are similar themselves, as they are in fact very different psychosis, but a person who interacts with a borderline patient and witnesses these few symptoms may mistake them for a narcissistic person. Both are prone to behaviors that some may consider 'abusive', but while narcissistic person's are egotistical and concerned with self-image, borderline individuals are mostly afraid of abandonment and are spooked at any bumps in relationships. Narcissistic people are too concerned with themselves to consider others perspectives, but their sense of self-worth isn't necessarily unhealthy. Borderline individuals care neurotically about maintaining relationships and fear suggestions of abandonment/betrayal, which can appear egotistical if they're in positions to interact with a lot of people; their personal sense of self-worth is often fragile.
Misattributing these behaviors or misdiagnosing the symptoms may have caused a lot of strife for these patients, because the ways to address them in therapy and life coaching are very different, in addition to how to interact with them on a personal basis (personality disorders can't be cured, so if you care about someone you might want to just accept some behaviors as disabilities).
Anonymous
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No.5532
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>>5531
Hard to answer authoritatively, having never (knowingly) interacted with BPD; the gist/summary is somewhat parallel to NPD.
Mix the absolute self-obsession of a narcissist, and then add the instability Bipolar disorder - with the extreme highs and lows and the behaviors that result - and you get Borderline, afaik.
Anonymous
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No.5533
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>>5532
I was moreso getting at that some of narcissism could actually be mistaken BPD.
>absolute self-obsession of a narcissist
See, that's a common misconception of BPD people. Their fear of abandonment and manipulative behavior is often mistaken for self-obsession, but actually they want to feel connected to people, rather than just wanting attention from anyone. It's for that reason that they don't hesitate to act like total cringelords and emo crybabies to get pity out of people they want to feel connected to, whereas narcissistic people tend to be a bit more refined in their image.
Really, they're both incredibly sad psychosis. Mental illness is a tragic thing.
Anonymous
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No.5534
>>5533
>Mental illness is a tragic thing
Checked
Anonymous
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No.5538
When the narcissist says "You can't take criticism" she isn't saying the quiet part out loud, which is "You won't take my critcism as gospel, chase my approval, and treat my opinion as your new God".
Anonymous
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No.5539
https://youtu.be/0fPrD7t88dw
The short version is, no
Anonymous
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No.5572
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Narcissists love to say "Your principles aren't real if I can't exploit them forever at will" but dressed up in narcissist shitspeak. Even Jesus could get angry. Tolerance of evil is not a virtue.
Anonymous
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No.5573
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>>5572
That's not inherently narcissistic. It's just a normal common shit take.
Anonymous
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>>5573
On the one hand, hes trying; on the other hand, without name-dropping... ya know
Anonymous
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No.5575
>>5574
What?
Anonymous
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No.5576
>>5574
I don't understand. What do you mean?
Anonymous
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>>5573
I have only narcissism claim "Your principles are not real" when they cannot be exploited forever.
Anonymous
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>>5577
>"Your principles are not real"
It sounds like gaslighting.
Anonymous
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>>5577
*have only heard
>>5578
Yeah. They desperately want you to try and change into someone more exploitable.
Anonymous
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>>5579
Except, anon is right; you're not necessarilt describing a narcissist, and your example is uselessly specific
Anonymous
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>>5580
It's a good example of the shit narcissists do. They want to exploit you and believe they have the right to do so. They attack you, undermine you, and believe they have the right to treat you like dogshit while you don't have the right to object or complain.
Anonymous
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No.5588
>>5581
It's really not though. It's lazy, non-specific, and really only conveys that you don't like narcissists; 'useful' though that may seem on paper (and sympathetic though that position may be), there are far more effective materials ITT that are actually useful and good for the user.
Anonymous
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Perhaps the following fits here:

>One of the things satanists are said to have to do at a certain high level is publicly manifest both themselves AND their plans.
>Diabolical Narcissism
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2022/06/07/one-of-the-things-satanists-are-said-to-have-to-do-at-a-certain-high-level-is-publicly-manifest-both-themselves-and-their-plans/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-i8S1zI14
Anonymous
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No.5596
https://youtu.be/pqlX3bAc8n4
>3:50
>In this kind of cult-like relationship the 'leader' pushes the other person in the relationship to follow them and support their 'mission'. The other person then has to suppress their reality and make themselves into whatever the narcissist wants them to be. The person who is in a relationship with a narcissist is constantly supporting the grandiosity of the narcissist, who takes advantage of the other person.
Anonymous
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No.5623
https://youtu.be/OPHjf6CKgwQ
While openly advocating for the utility of therapy, not all counselors are created equal nor are all therapists specifically and directly... useful in recovery. Due diligence is still a thing, and one should interview a prospective therapist/counselor before opening up to them.
While there is a significant percent that have their client's best interests involved, the field of.mental health is also fraught with individuals who have distinct mental issues of their own. I dont necessarily mean dysfunction, but neither can it be ruled out.
Anonymous
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No.5652
"Why is your pain any more important than my pleasure?" -Marquis de Sade from whom the term 'sadism' was coined.
Anonymous
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No.5661
5672
https://youtu.be/CGwzjUgnCQo
This video hilights the manner in which Camille Vasquez impeaches Amber Heard on the witness stand.
>Amber Heard vs. Johnny Depp
You knew I was going there, I knew I was going there, this whole trial and process has been a goldmine for narcissistic behavioral analysis. Yes, Heard was diagnosed Borderline/Hysterionic, but that only applies to her specific motivations for engaging in narcissistic behavior; the gaslighting, the absolute refusal to take any responsibility and deflect it on others, the ansolute adherence to depicting herself as being a particilar 'way' when literally depicting herself contrary, etc ad nauseum (literally).
But theres plenty of that sort of stuff ITT.
THIS video focuses on how to cut through the bullshit when dealing with such a narcissist, when you are fully aware and prepared for the narcissist's manipulations and strategies.
Ngl, I found it very validating, as it hilights tactics I have developed and used both on and off board to expose narcissistic intent, behavior, and method.
As hilighted, the first aspect is to know what the truth is, be direct about it, and not be distracted or diverted into arguing the narcissist's premise; they will say anything and everything to obfuscate the truth even when holding or looking at proof that they are lying.
The next aspect is to be very clear with your expression. Feigning incomprehension is another common tactic to try and weasel out of exposure, and when a person expresses this to very clear and precise language, it shows. It shows that either A. they're an idiot and can't comprehend precise specificity, or B. they're engaged in manipulation in an attempt to maintain their false public persona, by trying to distract from the specific phrasing or questioning.
Appreciate, one is never going to get any sort of admission from a Narcissist. Ever. This is why when unavoidably dealing with one, the person's objective can't be to reason with them; the objective is to get THEM to illustrate for the AUDIENCE who/what they are.
Outside of a courtroom, that's really hard to do without being smeared, defamed, etc., and presumably why the videographer advises avoiding such people/encounters at all cost; she's not wrong.
But for those unavoidable, inevitable, or 'something important is on the line' sorts of scenarios, Ms. Vasquez makes for an excellent primer on how to do it like a pro.
Anonymous
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No.5671
5672
https://youtu.be/EYMoSb4rzy0
More useful takeaways from the JD/AH trial/fallout, focusing on the warning signs JD ignored, leading to the situation that has now unfolded publicly.
Never fuck crazy.
Anonymous
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No.5672
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>>5661
>>5671
>Amber Heard
Anonymous
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No.5677
>>5672
Yes, Heard is a walking shitshow. A perfect sample case, from which unexposed people can see what a narcissist is like. But, in the aftermath, I hope to keep constructive my comments and posts about. I doubt theres more to be gleaned beyond 'what to avoid' and all that. My next post is gonna be a review of Will/Jada/their kid (I forgey his name) and all the onvious signs of natcissism (hint, its all 3).
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No.5728
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Anonymous
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No.5760
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Anonymous
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No.5765
https://youtu.be/tT7EZtHEjv8
Anonymous
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No.5768
https://youtu.be/ryBlJJNkuk8
Anonymous
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No.5801
https://youtu.be/jXrxDKwlA_s
Slated for the category of "nobody fucking cares", Will Smith (if you havent heard) made an apology video. Its shit, and theres plenty of people who have made reaction/response videos to that end.
The one thing that so far no one appears to have picked out of the video is this.
>2:21
>There is no part of me that thinks that that was the right way to behave in that moment. There is no part of me that thinks that is the optimal way to handle a feeling of disrespect or or insults
No part? Not one part? Theres nothing in the lizard brain that told him at the time that that was PRECISELY the correct action?
This is just one step removed from claims like "Im not that person" sometimes with the qualifier of "anymore". The correct thing to say would be to admit his fault AND the fact that part of him DID think that was the correct way to act, but after careful consideration he NOW realizes that he is vulnerable to such impulse (as evidenced). But this isnt about progress or work, nor is it about mending fences. This is a publicity stunt, to protect the ego/career of someone who just so happens to have ruined the minds of an entire generation of niggers by promoting the worst aspects of "black culture" during his time playing the Fresh Prince.
He may not be a diagnosable narcissist himself (there are some signs though), but he sure as hell taught people to be one and promoted narcissistic behavior, the reverberations of which are still observable in society.
Fuck this nigger
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Anonymous
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Anonymous
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>Narcissists Destroy Who they cannot Control
>The narcissist has no use for the one he or she cannot control. If the narc in your life cannot control you, you mean nothing to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JAUzP4b1X0
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zgxylCfB3M2H/
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I believe the following goes here. It is an amazing insight into the mindset of virtue-signalers.

>Our Biggest Problem? The People of the Lie - (28:52 long)
>Evil Society Leftism Conscience Peck Virtue
>Virtue Signalling, performative 'goodness' and scapegoating are used by people who refuse to confront their conscience. My thoughts on M Scott Peck's book "The People of the Lie".
https://rumble.com/v2ixy94-our-biggest-problem-the-people-of-the-lie.html
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/oo58Z179h31R/
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No.6648
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>>6647
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This thread saved my life. Thank you who ever started it.
Anonymous
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>>6719
Glad to known fren.
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>>6719
You're welcome, glad it was there for you
Anonymous
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No.6736
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>>6722
Now it's getting to the psychotic part of my narcissist. I think she stole my meds from a store. She might be going to jail. But for me I have to forgive and move on without here in my life. https://twitter.com/i/status/1660392004675665921
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>>6736
>Jim Carrey on the Power of Jesus Christ
>Jim Carrey
This globohomo faggot is literally a satanist great priest in case you didn't know it.
Same path than Ye and many Hollyjew actors claiming to embrace Jesus while participating in black masses and being members of the masonry cult.
Anonymous
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No.6739
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File (hide): C2C7FB739D99B916C0256F0E2F107C26-6715520.mp4 (6.4 MB, Resolution:1920x1080 Length:00:00:14, mbsawevkmeu.mp4) [play once] [loop]
mbsawevkmeu.mp4
>>6737
I profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and our living God as the Incarnate. Eventually on a timeline that is infanite and playing outside our space time like Q from Star Trek. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT_S-ShiOtQ
Anonymous
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No.6741
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>>6739
>I profess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and our living God as the Incarnate
All of which makes me wonder, wouldn't be Jesus as the anti-thesis of Satan also an artificial duality to manage the masses?
I mean, considering that big chunks of history are fake the narrative of two opposite forces, and we have to choose a side is suspicious.
In the end, Christianity is an ideology that disempowers its followers while promising rewards in the afterlife, interestingly, no one has come back from death to confirm that.
Just saying.
Anonymous
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No.6743
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>>6741
The Enemy does everything to burn down 'the orchard'. Numerous chances to turn around and repent.
The Enemy is the falsehood.
Those who actually follow God's Word made flesh who died and rose again, and Who has the best plan(s), and The Holy Spirit who helps and assists in hitting the mark and love God and love one another with a location that lights the love is difficult to find and keep safe from The Enemy at all times.
Anonymous
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No.6744
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>>6743
What this means is that the headquarters has to be inside a person. At leasy until Jesus (God's Word and Son) comes back.
The seal is The Holy Ghost.
>>6741
>Control and Dominate the masses
That's The Evil One's whole thing.
Observe Communism it causes immense harm in multiple areas and corrupts.
What Jesus has done is give the supreme weapon (better than a scalpel) to cut seemingly nonphysical things.
And the authority to do so.
However not following in God's perfection and allowing God to do the operation tends to have harmful consequences. In ten yeas, hundred years, thousand or million years.
If a person joins a prostitute and gets AIDS and other sicknesses that's that person's choice. The sickness is the result. All that starts in the unseen, the heart.
God sees the heart and more.
God then has preventative measures, solutions and what happens afterwards and surgical options.
>Confirmation
Well the dead sea did turn red a while ago and other this are happening.
Keep in mind God prefers to cooperate in the reality creation process.
Anonymous
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No.6745
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>>6743
>>6744
You are derailing the thread.
There is a Christian containment thread where you can post at will >>>/vx/166839 →
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>>6745
Thanks I'll keep it down after this.
>>6741
Admittedly it is off topic starting from, where from Narcissism it strays off.
>>6737
To >>6741
Culminating in my replies.
>>6591
>Narcissists Destroy Who they cannot Control
This also applies to beings unseen.
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>>6746
Yeah. I just exposed my covert narcissist. I figured I was a car and pay check to her. My therapist keeps repeating a sociopaths always lie. I saw, that of every one in my family, it was her the who time. The one who was telling lies and manipulating, She is also stealing my medications to get fuck up even more from her "pain" meds, From her pill mill I have a video on her fucked up on drugs. I would love to post it here it is funny as hello.
>>6741
>>6743
>>6745
You need a strong believe system that keeps you from becoming one and keeps you from going into insanity like a person With (NPD) Narcissistic Personality Disorder especially if it was abuse from a parent.
Anonymous
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>The Psychology of Psychopaths – Predators who Walk Among Us
>Psychopaths are human predators. They coerce, manipulate, lie, steal, defraud, abuse, and take life, without feeling guilt or remorse. A leading expert on psychopathy, Robert Hare, estimates that 1% of people are psychopaths; while the clinical psychologist Martha Stout suggests this figure is closer to 4%. Studies indicate that psychopaths are over-represented in the corporate executive world and in politics. In this video we are going to explore the psychology of the psychopath as this knowledge can help us minimize the damage they inflict on us, those we care about, and humanity at large.
https://academyofideas.com/2023/07/the-psychology-of-psychopaths-predators-who-walk-among-us/
Video (13:43 long):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOyLraNMXM0
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bBzh26q14Bpo/