/ub/ - Überhengst

>>190
>>6231
Two pieces of advice I recently had to reckon with after....more frustration and anger than the tasks merit. But asking those questions knowing the answer is something you're not going to like, then reasoning it out so as to make it easier to confront, seems to aid the process. Conversations with yourself where you concede on the hard points and ask what should be done to resolve them really help.

Thank you poners for keeping this thread alive so long, it's a keeper, even with the faceberg memes.

>>6814
>Thank you poners for keeping this thread alive so long, it's a keeper, even with the faceberg memes.
Just FYI, 90% of this bread was posted by me.

>>6815
Like I said, thank you. Even if a sizeable chunk of the pics are more bottom-texty than rage comics.
Also, everyone keep the wisdom in Office Space close to heard.

I'm a horse...its really not that big of a deal...

>>6829
Reddit coal unfit to heat a German's house

Learning without practicing.

Advice.

>>6421
If you need to hit your kid, you don't have the brains or charisma. Your kid doesn't respect you as a father figure.

>>6989
>modern education
>zoomer dares to speak
No intention for smearing but to give you awareness on that unhinged take. Yours is a pampered utter degenerate culture I would say.

>>6989
>brainwashed fool
This is how it is done.

>>6421
I don't really believe in this. Ig, it happens regardless what people think about it and maybe it can during certain circumstances be necessary. But in general I think, it shouldn't be needed if you have a good relationship with your child, which I think you can get by loving them.
>>6992
If the woman in the video is their mom, I feel like she must have failed them earlier in her fostering of them. Also, doubt that these woman changed their minds just because they got hit when the rest of society will back up their promiscious ways.

Just my two cents.

>>190
I got a few.

-- Avoid holding self help as a commandment, a dogma, or an immutable rule. The world is a lot more complex than people make it out to be, and holding things to be absolute will only cause suffering.

-- Your body is like a government budget; use it or lose it.

-- Most of the time, those who cause suffering are suffering from something themselves. It doesn't change how much of a cunt they are, though.

-- People are really good at knowing that a problem exists, but more often than not, they are terrible at figuring out where and what the problem actually is.

-- Projection is not just a trait of the mentally-ill, it is a very human trait. If you become aware of this, you can figure out just how deep your thoughts and habits go.

-- Quotes and works tell you more about people, the lives they lived, and their opinions on life, rather than about life itself. Only divinity and nature can teach you about life itself.

>>192
I'd like to offer my take on this:

-- Nothing is truly free. If someone gives you something for free, either they're looking for appreciation, they're looking to get space back, or they're looking to get something out of you.

words to live by

>>6989
>If you need to hit your kid, you don't have the brains or charisma.
To hell with charisma, this has always been about to correct a brat. Physical punishment at home had produced wonders for millennia.

>>7176
You replied to that anon, three times basically saying you need to be smacked to be more mentally adjusted.
Three times saying shit that doesn't matter or help. It's not an enlightening take.
Every time you give bullshit.
What a fuck up. If you think that's good parenting you must enjoy clown world and all the semitisms.
Correctional behavior via brain damage.
No wonder you never want to correct your behavior. It's a wonder if you even can.
Fuck off.
Oh that's right you only understand being whipped.
Okay let me put this into terms you understand, every fuck off is the whole beat downs you've cumulatively posted.
>worked wonders for millennia
Wow, we should totally trust usery and jews and muslims ect ect ect they worked wonders for a millennia.

>>7177
>basically saying you need to be smacked to be more mentally adjusted.
Yup. Isn't ancient wisdom marvelous?
Clarity and peace of mind come together to help teens in a chaotic world.

>>7177
>Oh that's right you only understand being whipped.
Dude, I was a pupil luckily not in an American pampered camp, I very well remember my teacher called Iris, she was a fucking demon taking no shit at all from the kids, the net result was an absolute silence is her class and everybody was paying 100% attention to the blackboard. She was the best, everybody learned math like never before and at lighting speed.
Her fav punishment was hitting her ruler on the tips of our fingers.
R for respect.

>>7180
>she was a fucking demon
I mean, we were terrified by her.

>>7180
Thanks for proving it's absolutely garbage.

>>7180
Beating, harassing, threatening, shaming, and guilting children to mould them into the (((perfect shape))) is best called: "how to create a sycophant that will never have individual thoughts and will always fall into line".

No wonder you turned out to be such a shitstain bootlicker.

>>7204
Not in the slightest. That dipshit goy claims that butchering childhood and creating robots is (((good for them))). Find another calling card, that one's stale.

>>7206
Okay dipshit cuckgoy. Keep spamming your entire folder, won't change the fact you can't stand up to being called out when you are ignorantly wrong.

>>7203
You are assuming and implying a lot without any proof to back you up. That said, a household needs hierarchy, the youngters when their hormonal period begins to develop turn into uppity brats and corrections are a must (discipline). This phase is unavoidable and no matter how loud you complain, punishment must be exacted.

>>7205
>butchering childhood
>ignoring the natural hierarchy
Don't worry, most children survive the beating to become strong men and carry on civilization.

>>7210
Sure, they survive, but they don't necessarily become "stronger". They just become conditioned to expect pain when not conforming to expectations, and predisposed to using violence as a means to assert dominance.

>>7209
There are other ways to assert hierarchy and to discipline children.

>>7209
Thanks for again proving your dumb fuck stance.
>uppity brats
>This phase is unavoidable
Shows the pale imitation of knowledge you know.
You don't want 'uppity brats' you don't be an 'uppity brat'.
An unending ocean water world of love, and its calm. You teach them love and the things that please you such as being a good loving moral person.
Giving the home in their heart and in yours.
>unavoidable
You need strength. Real strength.
That's strength of character.
Of love.
Of friendship.
Of Football.
Share the love and passions and even if they aren't interested in those passions they reciprocate love.
>muh outside world
That's where strength comes in. It's not total disregard it's nuanced interactions.
>hormonal period
A new filter for how they see the world and the parents and the friends and family opens up. Seeing a new color, but it's subtle in such a way only when pointed out does it make sense.
With that tugging never before felt why would they ever resist that tug?
If they even know the tug is there.
It's like advertising, when you know all those psychological effects you can dictate them.
When that's not possible there's a bastion home to weather the storm.
>>7210
>stong
That's not true strength. It's a lie of force. You have made cattle, slaves, automatons, not inheritors of strength but avoiders of pain!
To raise a person in strength means despite the world they can.
That they are able in the fullest way.

>>7213
>That's not true strength. It's a lie of force. You have made cattle, slaves, automatons, not inheritors of strength but avoiders of pain!
I almost wish I hadn't read that. But truer words have never been spoken.

>>7209
Whole lot of bitchboi projection coming off you. Simple fact: imposing (((compliance))) produces slaves whom will then recreate compliance, creating MORE slaves. You don't even understand your own fucking position, bootlicker.

>>7209
>>7210
I would hate to be your offspring.

>>7213
>That's strength of character.
>Of love.
>Of friendship.
>Of Football.
Dude, a parent is not a friend but the individual in charge to correct the misguided and educate the youngters. A daring task that taxes most parents, specially when the stupids hit puberty.

>>7217
Do not confuse conform into the household with outside fren.

>>7222
Oh yes, just !!CoNfOrM hErE bUt NoT oUtSiDe Of HeRe!! That should solve ALL the problems and WOULD NEVER create an expectation of conformity ANYWHERE ELSE, NOPE, NO SIR, NOWHERE. ELSE.

Good job exposing how batshit retarded a slavebot like you is, cuckboi.

>>7221
>a parent is a prison warden
No thanks retard.
>>7222
>Parents should never be trust worthy that's how it should be.
No thanks boomer.

>>7223
>>7224
Ahem. I believe you never were in charge of a household. Let me explain how it works.
My House, My Rules.

>>7227
I'm letting you know what happens with your rules.
Because it's just that retarded in every facet I'll advocate for other ways.
>My House, My Rules.
You should reconsider and inhabit a home instead. A nursing home.
Your rules are shit.
Here's how this works faget.
>"My House, My Rules."
>Your crotch spawn who has had enough of your shit uses the internet for more than two seconds
<Implying the other gene donor offsets your IQ
>Golly gee gobbment involved.
>Not your house
>Not your rules
>Congrats on forever child support wage slave.
At least then you'll make good on what you espouse. Just another resource to be drained dry.
>>7228
Wow it's like you've never seen a nigger welfare crime household.
You don't understand what discipline actually is do you?

>>7229
>Your rules are shit.
I hear that before. Don't let the door hit you in your way out.

>>7230
Maybe the reason why you hear it, is because it sucks.
>on the way out
Why would I ever enter your house?
Whenever I can I'd rather enter homes.
You seem like a pseudo-Christian, what do you think God should do in His house?

>>7231
>Maybe the reason why you hear it, is because it sucks.
Sure, I agree, and yet the house and all the bills have my name, so it is wise to shut the fuck up and keep enjoying my heating and food.

>>7232
>wise to shut the fuck up and keep enjoying my heating and food.
Oh so it's okay to bow the knee to bread and circuses. Going to teach them to cuck out some more?
That your only utility as a parent is physical resources. Golly gee mister, this period of time must be your favorite becaus eyou can watch it all the time on the tele.
Their favorite memory of you is your will being read. Great fucking plan.
>yet the house and all the bills have my name
They sure do.
Oh boy, they sure do.

Here's some wisdom.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean it should be done.
If someone say's it's impossible to be done. That's a challenge.
Be autistic in noticing and keep it on the inside.
Football.
Call upon the sea ponies when you're in distress.
Many problems can be solved with people skills. The question is what kind.

>>7217
>Whole lot of bitchboi projection coming off you. Simple fact: imposing (((compliance))) produces slaves whom will then recreate compliance
I think this meme resumes your logic. Do you think is right? Mmmmmmh.

>>7233
>Oh boy, they sure do
>sarcasm
Ungrateful brats that have it too soft.

>>7227
>My House, My Rules.
Do you even have kids? You don't sound like you do.

>>7235
>Pic 2
Not even close to true.

>>7238
I've meet many people like that before. I don't find it hard to believe he's an actual parent.

>>7240
>I've meet many people like that
So have I, but I want to know if he's speaking out of anecdotal experience, or hypothetical idealism.

>>7233
All this shit hits way too close to home. I do like my old man, I really do. But his parenting was trash. He essentially taught us a father was a walking wallet. That we should respect him out of fear we might lose the material resources he provided. It's all so tiresome.

>>7241
Right, I get ya.

>>7242
That really sucks and I'm sorry.
>>7241
I have to leave it up in the air.
>>7240
Here's a useful analogy on how to be a parent.
One that has strength.
It's being deep undercover.
On the surface you're just doing your job providing materially.
You however are on the clock 24/7 your every movement and action watched and measured.
You also are trying to communicate back to HQ the child/children through standard channels and gentle differences in 'normality'.
The more reports generated and the more useful and ones HQ couldn't possibly know are valued more.
However you're also risking life and limb and your going to have to do it as intelligently the essence of who you are as possible.
That being a hero, the role model, the pinnacle paragon.
Some people don't know this or are not able to express it right or a slip up or they're not actually a parent and just genetic & resource donors.
HQ needs many many things.
Quality information.
A love for information gathering.
A love for what is moral.
Also an understanding of everything they could possibly do that the world wouldn't consider.
That an excellent man or excellent women are not dictated or compelled or controled by any thing. Not fear, not power, not lies, not peer pressure, not vices, not lusts, not anything. Consider them and the full potential.
Motivated only by their own will.
They should desire love and emulate it.
Most of all they need to know and feel that they are loved. Just having stuff isn't enough.
They need play time, hugs, personal moments, victories over the mere elemental forces.
There's more that I'm sure I'm forgetting and running out of time.
Allow them to step into their true inheritance.

>>7244
Thanks. It's alright tho. Just wanted to get it out my chest. This is an interesting discussion.

>>7229
>Your rules are shit.
Your post has been saved for posterity. May the future generations learn for such a dysfunctional family member.

>>7265
Do you even have kids? Do you beat them?
Who are you to call his family dysfunctional?

>>7266
Don't try to be cute. You know pretty well that rebellious brats have no place in a sane family because they turn everything to shit, unless, you embrace the chaotic and conflict riddled family model taught by the jew TV to the whole society. If that is the case, then you made your own bed.

>>7267
>blame the child
Wow amazing advice foisting all faults on them.
Sounds to me like you desire to emulate TV well enough.
Go on Mr Perfect show why all problems have stopped since the dawn of time by punching down.
You want to know the messy truth?
Children are brain crippled people. They aren't running on the extract same physical hardware.
You know what that means?
If you beat it into them they'll remember what you've beat into them.
They'll also remember all sorts of other things.
So you suggesting to beat weakness into the future of mankind. That is diabolical.
Did you know sugar rushes aren't real?
That when children are happy they tend to run around and have fun?
Sugar for this instance of a moment a tiny happy inducing taste.
>>7265
Have fun fucking over generations of people by beating weakness and slavery into them.
You know who isn't weak.
God.
You should ask God on how to raise a child.
He has a collection of all sorts of topics.
You can just read the letter to death and be dead or live the spirit of life living in hearts.
Many many people tried it your way.
The results are varied.
Many many people try foisting child care onto people or things who don't care or love.
The results are varied.
People fuck up all the time in perhaps critical moments.
That lasts.
People also can choose to forgive and remember fondly of better times.
But you think just hit 'em till they work is the solution.

You think it's just two choices, hit 'em (making them no better than slaves) or have them emulate what (((they))) want.
Do you even see your flawed position?

You want easy parenting tips? You need divine intervention to parent properly. You need a whole lot of people who deeply genuinely cares about the child with one goal and no mistakes ever.
They need to know and feel and love what matters most.
With a shell of a lie it's impossible, but with God nothing is impossible.

>>7270
>outraged faget doesn't want limits
Dude, no matter how fast you spin it, ancient wisdom prevails.
Spare The Rod, Spoil The Child.

>>7270
>You want easy parenting tips?
Glad you brought it up.

>>7227
Your (((house))) is so utterly kiked that it is not worth burning down to feel an iota of warmth. That is completely obvious at this point.

Not only are (((you))) a stupendously retarded cuckoid for attacking MY home, you have zero fucking idea on the number of humans that live here, whom have their home in any small or large manner they desire. I do not own them. I will not own them. They are individuals, and sometimes individuals need guidance, acceptance, empathy, and to spend time with.

Those same people? They're NOT slaves as (((you))) so fucking espouse as (((good))). But I wouldn't mind owning (((you))). After all, under your kike rules it's perfectly fine to beat a slave, and if said slave doesn't die within 2 days, but dies on the 3rd day, then it's perfectly lawful.

>>7235
No. Being punished wrongfully, especially via physical or mental beatings, causes the 'backblast in a tiny armored room' effect. Being taught and responded to correctly leads to B, the 'chained-empathy through culture' effect.

Don't switch like a bitchboi either. That shows off how intellectually dishonest you are.

>>7272
A 3-day zombie kike on a stick named yehoshua ben yussef means nothing. A book of kike tales with zero historical that's been rewritten over 2,000 times means less than nothing. Wodan suffered far more than that inbred pedophile heap of pigshit.

>>7267
Answer the question.

I think >>7274 might be yet another canned mentally ill angry khazar/fake-"jew". That's (one of the deranged ways of) how they talk, to bring down the "level" of a community they want to undermine and destroy.

>>7276
That's not the case.
If you actually look at how sentence structure is, it more resembles someone who is incapable of defending their position. Who preemptively shuts down discussion, who throws away all evidence, who provides nothing. Doing jewery.
And this Anon >>7274
That Anon provides quite alot of good shit.
If you've spent any time he's done a ton.
So I respect all the leg work he's done and is likely to continue doing.
So even when he's abusive towards the one God above all Gods which is the highest love (whether The Highest Love took over the dune spirit or whatever.) (Defined as holy, set apart due to being better is all possible and impossible ways. Yes that sounds 'Mary Sue' like, I would suggest that doesn't even begin to fully describe who God is. Start as the friendly eldritch horror where the horror is that you're able to see your self as the pinnacle of who you were designed to be and you've been shown your emaciated form) (He is superior to worldly knowledge and just like stories about eldritch horrors it's incongruous to conventional knowledge without His help.)
I know is from his position of hard won world knowledge, and I respect that.
I could say my anecdotes of how He operates in my life. I'll also say this, like eldritch horrors any vector is possible for Him to act, and unlike eldritch horrors God is not constrained. The character He is makes Him trust worthy to me.
I go to Him confidently and ask anything without guile or trickery and I recieved.
An /x/ fag might say it's similar to Law of Attraction or any other magic, that's not a wholly wrong take, but He is trust worthy in all endeavors.
>>7274
Your (You) and some cute pones.

>>7274
Got distracted. Good post.

>>7267
You didn't answer any of my questions.
>Don't try to be cute
I'm not being "cute". I asked you to very straightforward questions, and a third one to follow it up.
Are you a parent in real life?

>>7272
>doesn't want limits
He didn't say that anywhere in his post.

>>7276
For the good of ALL humanity:
#1: all jews must be destroyed to the last.
#2: all knowledge of (((their))) lineage and actions must be made known and exposed to the common man so that future generations understand the threats of (((their))) inhumanity, along with the goyim golems that serve kikery.
#3: usury must be abolished and left in the dumpster of history.

#4: >1 post
HRMMMMMM.....

>>7277
>>7278
Praise Epona, not a jewish lie based on an earlier jewish lie.

>>7276
>I think >>7274 might be yet another canned mentally ill angry khazar/fake-"jew
Perhaps. Also the possibility of being circumcised and vaccinated crossed my mind. Such a rage and lack of common sense is not normal.

>>7282
Answer my questions from earlier.

I believe the best thing for children today is to do home school and never give them smart phones until they can pay for it themselves.

>>7284
Idk. I think teenagers can actually benefit from learning to use smart phones earlier in their lives. I say that as someone who didn't get to use one until I was an adult. They are useful tools and using them is only going to become more common in the future, not just for peer communication, but at the workplace too.
Moderation and monitoring are definitely necessary though.
When it comes for payments, it's also a lot cheaper to put the whole family on payment plans.

>>7285
<---

A friendly reminder for the (Pony) Stallions on here: the satanic (((new world order))) can't work without the tracking devices and "smart grid". Just look at how horrible things are in china. Once the murder-hungry lunatics have the power, they'll abuse it right away.

(Besides all of the dystopian sci-fi type of tracking/spying, if you're using a smartphone, the one world gov knows and counts it - once a threshold is reached, they'll move on to the next phase of their wicked plan. Remember how all of the "human-goats" signed in before entering a shop using their slave-mirror? Your own little effort to do the right thing matters more than you think.)

>second pic
What this thread became since a few hyper sensible faggots found opposite views.

>>7286
Then it hardly makes a difference if they have them as teenagers vs if they have them as adults.

>>7288
Why won't you answer any of my questions?

Do your shit on time. Procrastination is the worst habit.

>>7288
I think it's more Anons presenting their own opinions on terms of hypothetical idealism rather than lessons learned through anecdotal experience (as the OP calls for).

>>7292
>on terms of hypothetical idealism
It is more than hypothetical. They express themselves very passionate and sometimes borderline hysterical.

>>7293
Why don't you answer Anon's questions?

>>7293
Pretty sure he was talking about you as well.

Wow no answer.
Here's some wisdom two parts, don't be the person who genuinely typed pic related.
Same fagged.
Got caught.
Doubled down. Doubled down again. Got caught continually and doubled down.
Claimed without Uzi's nation's would fall.
Doesn't understand any of the rules.
The second part is to look back fondly and remember history.

Amazing.

Having a sense of humour is the only way to deal with lifes problems and maintain your sanity. Can't take yourself or anyone else too seriously.