/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Port's Closed

This is going to suck economically for everyone who lives in Baltimore, and a lot of the rest of the country
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/transportation/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-shuts-down-port-UWTGE4KLJ5HUXDX2OTEETMW3EY/

>Two people have been rescued from the water
>Divers are still searching for others in the water
>1 person hospitalized
>President Joe Biden has been briefed on the collapse
>He will continue to receive updates from his team throughout the day
>An unclassified Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency report said the container ship Dali "lost propulsion" as it was leaving port and warned Maryland officials of a possible collision.
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries
>The company said the 22 crew members, including the pilots, were based in India.
>Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg said in a statement that he’s spoken with local officials to offer support.
>Maryland Gov. Wes Moore has declared a state of emergency following the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge
Local live updates
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-key-bridge/60303975

Dali-chan

>>371980
If it was only a loss of propulsion, then the crash probably should not have happened. It should have still had navigation with rudder and the ability to slow down with anchor. If they don’t want to admit there was a total power failure to the bridge, that would explain why they couldn’t have navigated at all.

That is if they weren’t going too fast towards the fucking bridge like retards and lost their propeller so they couldn’t turn enough to avoid it and couldn’t slow down with an anchor. That would also mean that they were likely to crash regardless because they were counting on Tokyo Drifting their ship.

>>371983
Can we just ban Indians from leaving India already?

>>371985
That would be ideal. They have the greatest access to one of the most powerful nuclear power components ever, Thorium, and they can’t figure out how to use it. They could actually reach modern living standards with all of that, but they actively refuse to live civilized.

CNN just released the captain's photo

>>371974
Shieet.

Sabotage might be.

>>371992
it is crazy how they managed to miss all the open water and hit the one object in the water around them

>>371993
Indeed. Now all the port terminals are blocked.

>>371992
Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that. A competent crew wouldn't have put themselves in such a situation, but this wasn't a competent crew.

This is the competence crisis in action. The replacement of competent white workers with untrained foreign shitskins means the collapse of complex systems. Shipping accidents like this are one of the most visible symptoms. You can expect more and more of these kinds of accidents in the future.

>>371997
especially if they didn't lose emergency power since iirc emergency power on most ships can control the rudders

>>371997
>Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that.
I found a clip showing how those pajeets steered the ship straight to the pillar once allegedly regaining power. It looks on purpose to me.

>>372000
you know they had two local pilots controlling the vessel at the time, right?

>>372000
>>371999
It's not do much of the loss of steering as it is the sudden regain of propulsion. The stupid jeets just fiddled with the steering wheel and jerked it in random directions because they thought their ship was going to be shut down for hours: it's the same kind of mistake 15 year old drivers makes, and demonstrates a complete lack of training and competence, all in the name of "diversity" of course.
If you listen to the audio, it's painfully clear that this is the result of unfathomable idiocy.

>>372001
In theory might be. But a named source confirming that would be useful.

>>372003
source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot

but here's one that explicitly states it anyway: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-we-know-dali-francis-scott-crash-collapse-maryland-bridge-2024-3

>>372004
>source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot
I understand that, but it needs confirmation that a named American national was on board and being responsible when the incident happened.

>>372003
Go to the website. They have names. You could hear them shouting back and fourth as they floundered like children.

>>372005
There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets. Scroll up in the thread.

>>372005
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/
Port of Baltimore isn't gonna release shit about these guys until the IMO investigation is over but pilots are required to be trained on the specific individual waterway that they are solely responsible for so I'm willing to bet pretty much any amount of money they live within driving distance of Baltimore

>>372007
>There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets.
Then there was NOT any pilot on board.

>>372007
Pilots aren't part of the ship's crew, they hop on specifically to help navigate their home waterway (in this case, Baltimore Harbor and its surroundings)

>>372009
You're going to have to post proof of that because the company that owns the ship stated 2 pilots were aboard

https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372010
Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>372011
Dude, if only brown foreigners were on board when the incident happened, then there was not any pilot on board. Obvious logic and simple semantic comprehension on your part might help.

>>372013
Again, pilots are not considered part of the ship's crew, they're on loan from the harbor.
There are no "logic" and "semantic comprehensions" here, maritime communication is standardized and words don't have alternative meanings
https://web.archive.org/web/20150316133401/https://www.imo.org/ourwork/safety/navigation/pages/standardmarinecommunicationphrases.aspx

>>372014
You don't get it yet.
You are sticking to a theoretical set of rules for every ship to follow. But the point here is that apparently those rules were not followed.

>>372015
and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that, because its not "a single ship fucking up" if they don't have local pilots, its "a major fucking violation of laws + the harbor would have to be complicit in breaking their own rules"
Doesn't make sense, wouldn't happen, didn't happen.

>>372015
>>372013
Are you trying to claim that the ship had no pilot at all? The ship can't operate without a pilot, legally or physically. The pajeets wouldn't have even been able to get it to Baltimore.
The pilot's name should be published somewhere. Go look it up instead of speculating.

>>372016
>and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that
I follow the news mentioning 22 pajeet crew members, all accounted and well. Not even one mentions an American national on board.

>>372019
Pilots aren't part of the crew.

>>372020
A pilot should be present on board. Not a single mention of him or his name can be found.

>>372021
The captain was a Ukrainian guy. It's been mentioned. I saw it earlier, but don't have his name atm.
>Not a single mention of him or his name can be found
That's not true.

>>372022
>That's not true.
Link?

>>372021
the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots. Again, their employer (the port of Baltimore, in all likelihood) isn't gonna say SHIT about their guys who may or may not have been involved in destroying a multibillion dollar bridge until they have to for the IMO investigation

>>372024
>the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots.
Link?

>>372023
>>372025
Go look it up. I'm at work. Why do you keep asking questions when you haven't bothered to search it?

>>372025
its the same one you've been quoting for 22 pajeets
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries.
>including the two pilots
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372026
>Go look it up.
Okay, I found it.
https://nationalfile.com/all-indian-crew-manned-ship-that-took-down-francis-scott-key-bridge/

>>372028
Good then.