/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Port's Closed

This is going to suck economically for everyone who lives in Baltimore, and a lot of the rest of the country
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/transportation/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-shuts-down-port-UWTGE4KLJ5HUXDX2OTEETMW3EY/

>Two people have been rescued from the water
>Divers are still searching for others in the water
>1 person hospitalized
>President Joe Biden has been briefed on the collapse
>He will continue to receive updates from his team throughout the day
>An unclassified Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency report said the container ship Dali "lost propulsion" as it was leaving port and warned Maryland officials of a possible collision.
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries
>The company said the 22 crew members, including the pilots, were based in India.
>Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg said in a statement that he’s spoken with local officials to offer support.
>Maryland Gov. Wes Moore has declared a state of emergency following the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge
Local live updates
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-key-bridge/60303975

Dali-chan

>>371980
If it was only a loss of propulsion, then the crash probably should not have happened. It should have still had navigation with rudder and the ability to slow down with anchor. If they don’t want to admit there was a total power failure to the bridge, that would explain why they couldn’t have navigated at all.

That is if they weren’t going too fast towards the fucking bridge like retards and lost their propeller so they couldn’t turn enough to avoid it and couldn’t slow down with an anchor. That would also mean that they were likely to crash regardless because they were counting on Tokyo Drifting their ship.

>>371983
Can we just ban Indians from leaving India already?

>>371985
That would be ideal. They have the greatest access to one of the most powerful nuclear power components ever, Thorium, and they can’t figure out how to use it. They could actually reach modern living standards with all of that, but they actively refuse to live civilized.

CNN just released the captain's photo

>>371974
Shieet.

Sabotage might be.

>>371992
it is crazy how they managed to miss all the open water and hit the one object in the water around them

>>371993
Indeed. Now all the port terminals are blocked.

>>371992
Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that. A competent crew wouldn't have put themselves in such a situation, but this wasn't a competent crew.

This is the competence crisis in action. The replacement of competent white workers with untrained foreign shitskins means the collapse of complex systems. Shipping accidents like this are one of the most visible symptoms. You can expect more and more of these kinds of accidents in the future.

>>371997
especially if they didn't lose emergency power since iirc emergency power on most ships can control the rudders

>>371997
>Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that.
I found a clip showing how those pajeets steered the ship straight to the pillar once allegedly regaining power. It looks on purpose to me.

>>372000
you know they had two local pilots controlling the vessel at the time, right?

>>372000
>>371999
It's not do much of the loss of steering as it is the sudden regain of propulsion. The stupid jeets just fiddled with the steering wheel and jerked it in random directions because they thought their ship was going to be shut down for hours: it's the same kind of mistake 15 year old drivers makes, and demonstrates a complete lack of training and competence, all in the name of "diversity" of course.
If you listen to the audio, it's painfully clear that this is the result of unfathomable idiocy.

>>372001
In theory might be. But a named source confirming that would be useful.

>>372003
source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot

but here's one that explicitly states it anyway: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-we-know-dali-francis-scott-crash-collapse-maryland-bridge-2024-3

>>372004
>source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot
I understand that, but it needs confirmation that a named American national was on board and being responsible when the incident happened.

>>372003
Go to the website. They have names. You could hear them shouting back and fourth as they floundered like children.

>>372005
There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets. Scroll up in the thread.

>>372005
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/
Port of Baltimore isn't gonna release shit about these guys until the IMO investigation is over but pilots are required to be trained on the specific individual waterway that they are solely responsible for so I'm willing to bet pretty much any amount of money they live within driving distance of Baltimore

>>372007
>There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets.
Then there was NOT any pilot on board.

>>372007
Pilots aren't part of the ship's crew, they hop on specifically to help navigate their home waterway (in this case, Baltimore Harbor and its surroundings)

>>372009
You're going to have to post proof of that because the company that owns the ship stated 2 pilots were aboard

https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372010
Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>372011
Dude, if only brown foreigners were on board when the incident happened, then there was not any pilot on board. Obvious logic and simple semantic comprehension on your part might help.

>>372013
Again, pilots are not considered part of the ship's crew, they're on loan from the harbor.
There are no "logic" and "semantic comprehensions" here, maritime communication is standardized and words don't have alternative meanings
https://web.archive.org/web/20150316133401/https://www.imo.org/ourwork/safety/navigation/pages/standardmarinecommunicationphrases.aspx

>>372014
You don't get it yet.
You are sticking to a theoretical set of rules for every ship to follow. But the point here is that apparently those rules were not followed.

>>372015
and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that, because its not "a single ship fucking up" if they don't have local pilots, its "a major fucking violation of laws + the harbor would have to be complicit in breaking their own rules"
Doesn't make sense, wouldn't happen, didn't happen.

>>372015
>>372013
Are you trying to claim that the ship had no pilot at all? The ship can't operate without a pilot, legally or physically. The pajeets wouldn't have even been able to get it to Baltimore.
The pilot's name should be published somewhere. Go look it up instead of speculating.

>>372016
>and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that
I follow the news mentioning 22 pajeet crew members, all accounted and well. Not even one mentions an American national on board.

>>372019
Pilots aren't part of the crew.

>>372020
A pilot should be present on board. Not a single mention of him or his name can be found.

>>372021
The captain was a Ukrainian guy. It's been mentioned. I saw it earlier, but don't have his name atm.
>Not a single mention of him or his name can be found
That's not true.

>>372022
>That's not true.
Link?

>>372021
the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots. Again, their employer (the port of Baltimore, in all likelihood) isn't gonna say SHIT about their guys who may or may not have been involved in destroying a multibillion dollar bridge until they have to for the IMO investigation

>>372024
>the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots.
Link?

>>372023
>>372025
Go look it up. I'm at work. Why do you keep asking questions when you haven't bothered to search it?

>>372025
its the same one you've been quoting for 22 pajeets
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries.
>including the two pilots
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372026
>Go look it up.
Okay, I found it.
https://nationalfile.com/all-indian-crew-manned-ship-that-took-down-francis-scott-key-bridge/

>>372028
Good then.

>>372028
Pilots still aren't crew bud

>>372028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ this source also claims a Maryland bay pilot on board (3:24)

>>372028
you're a fucking knuckle dragging retard, please stop posting here and kill yourself

>>372031
The Dali experienced a momentary loss of propulsion, said the Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore, citing the vessel’s manager and operator, Synergy Marine. As a result, the ship was unable to maintain its desired heading.

“The vessel was reported to have dropped its anchors as part of the vessel’s emergency procedures prior to its impact with the bridge,” the Singapore port authority said. “The vessel was under pilotage at the time of the incident.”

>>372033
https://www.mpa.gov.sg/media-centre/details/investigators-from-the-transport-safety-investigation-bureau-and-mpa-are-making-their-way-to-baltimore--maryland here's a direct source on that Port Authority of Singapore statement

>>372031
That's a good info.
>>372032
KYS

>>372035
unfortunately friend it looks like there was one, if not two highly experienced American mariners aboard this ship
Its ok though, you can still blame the jeets because it was probably their inability to maintain an engine that did her in

>>372035
>too dumb to do a simple google search
>too dumb to understand multiple people telling him that local pilots would have been aboard the ship, and they would not be listed as members of the crew
>too dumb to even know that you are dumb, so you kept insisting to everyone that you were right despite being completely uninformed
what the actual fuck is wrong with you? why do you even bother posting here? you contribute nothing. you are embarrassing.

>>372037
Nice welcome to /mlpol/ /s
No wonder that with exceptional anons like you, most already left in shame.

>>372038
>/s
fuck off back to reddit, faggot. you do not belong here.

is this the company who owned the freighter?
https://twitter.com/SynergyGroup06/status/1771784988196823495

>>372041
ships are complicated when it comes to ownership.
They were the managers, which means they operated the ship, usually on behalf of an owner (Grace Ocean Pte Ltd) The management company then charters the ship out (in this case, to Maersk)

>>372042
if ships were real estate, then Synergy Group was the bitchy apartment property manager

>>372037
I swear this room-temperature IQ boomer shits up every single thread I make.

>372038
Nigger

Photos released of the captain:
https://vxtwitter.com/StealRite_Blink/status/1772663182668013684

>>372046
Nothing will happen, he will get away with it

>>372050
they are only referring to the city and less taxes and toll payments.
Texas and Florida meanwhile will get more trade flow.

>>372051
I really don't think the port makes 15m a day in toll payments...

>>372050
"the economy" means its fake kike money on a spreadsheet

>>372053
A lot of trade goes through the port of Baltimore. See >>371976

>>372054
its like the 6th largest port on the east coast and there are only like 8 or 9. Norfolk is less than 200mi away.

>>372055
That's a lot of money.

>>372056
moving the 1000 TEU or so of traffic from Baltimore is gonna be a rounding error on Goldstein and Finkelblatt Shipping's accounting book

Don't worry goy they'll pass the full "cost" on to you and then sue the responsible party for it later

>>372057
plus its "the economy" so they're counting every bullshit factor from lost tourism to niggers having to spend an extra half gallon of gas to drive around Baltimore

>>372057
I think the people with tht 155,000 jobs involved will feel the effects.
Not saying it's the end of the world, just saying that this fuckup did a ton of damage.

>>372059
Its about a tenth of that friendo, the 140k auxiliary jobs your news article likely pulled from this press release https://mpa.maryland.gov/Press%20Releases/Press02232024.pdf are things like truckers who pass through the port

>>372059
I don't think it was an accident

>>372044
if he is a repeat offender, why is he not banned? he did nothing in this thread but derail it for hours with his 45 IQ takes. i miss old /pol/ where stupid people, shills, and kikes were banned on sight.

>>372068
I don't think old /pol/ actually banned idiots on sight: The mods were never really on our side. It's just that fewer stupid people were attracted to it due to lower popularity, and the oldfags were more keen to rebuke, or more importantly ignore, idiots bots and shills back in the day.
These days the oldfags and people who actually lurked for a year before posting are so outnumbered and disenfranchised that they're basically powerless to stop the idiots, shills, and bots as they are to stop the newfags and redditors who engage said posts. It was especially bad around 2016-2017 (when this board was made) as the election pulled in a lot of new flags, and hot even worse around 2020-2021 as the pandemic gave normies a lot more free time to make their way to imageboards, and in the time of heightened skepticism fringe right wing communities were a bit overly welcome to retards who were being drawn there to speak freely over vax skepticism and lockdowns (which is a good thing to discuss), and didn't consider the consequences of letting retards into the communities just because they happened agree on a handful of issues...
This community was created to escape normies and retards that infested /pol/, however, around ~2021, it became clear that because our community is small it's easy for one or two especially obnoxious retards to alter the overall tone of the board through volume alone.

>>372068
Unfortunately being a faggot retard isn't against the rules
t. wrote the rules

>>372072
I was there when the rules were written too.
He's broken a lot of the other rules lots of times though.

>>372073
have you used your report button or have you whined in the thread and let it be?

Before: https://archive.is/lkVU2
After: https://www.balticshipping.com/vessel/imo/9697428/seafarers
Shipmaster records are being scrubbed.

>>372072
on old /pol/ being such a retard/faggot that you derailed threads and made board quality measurably worse was, in fact, against the rules. and that was a good thing.

>>372077
Good point

>>372072
Derailing really should be against the rules.

>>372084
Rule 10 IS derailing

>>372077
>>372079
>>372084
Knock it off. It was not derailing, but to explore a new angle.
You people are so dishonest as to outright mischaracterize a different approach in order to get the staff to censor free-thinkers. Very jewy of you.

>>372085
Rule 10 is strategic application of rule 3.
You should only be allowed to derail with mares.

>>372086
>mischaracterize
Nigger, you have been acting like this for three years, and we all recognize your posting style by now. Nobody is falling for your attempts to play yourself as the victim anymore.

>>372086
Don't get me wrong by the way, you're still a retarded nigger, I was just a lot more libertarian when I had any sort of power here so I pushed for your right to be a retarded nigger.

One of my bigger regrets in life

>>372089
>I pushed for your right to be a retarded nigger.
>One of my bigger regrets in life
Same boat, m8. I was naive...

Have a mare

>>372090
2016 was a turning point in a lot of our lives and we never realized it

>>372088
>>372089
Get a thicker skin and get used to get push-back in your threads.
This board is not your exclusive playground, I'm part of the community as well and I will be here forever.

>>372092
Then quit acting like a nigger, and maybe people will stop complaining.

>>372092
only because I gave up my admin hat smh
Protip for life: if you're in a community where you are universally hated, find a different community. Its bad for your mental health first and foremost to be constantly shit on, and its bad for the community at large to constantly have to shit on you.

>>372094
I do my stuff independently of (you) haters. It is (you) who try to mess with me, not the other way around.
To put it in other way, you niggers are for me like fam, a pity you consider me like the worst. But hey! One cannot choose family.

>>372096
You can always choose to leave, unless you're already ostracized everywhere else and feel you need this negative attention (which wouldn't surprise me)

>>372098
>You can always choose to leave
It won't happen, this is MY board and I like it. But if you are unhappy don't let the door hit you in your way out.

>>372096
>I do my stuff independently of (you) haters
No you don't, you do it in our threads
>It is (you) who try to mess with me, not the other way around.
How are we able do that? How are we able to single you out on an anonymous board?
Could it be that you constantly leave telltale signs of what a massive nigger you are? That your posts are so low-IQ that everyone knows it's you?
>One cannot choose
You literally chose to come here.
>>372099
That's a choice.

>>372099
listen buddy you probably picked the worst person to imply "This is MY board not yours" to

>>372100
>>372101
Can we go back to the ship crashing the bridge? Huh?

>>372102
Nothing new has happened. I'm keeping abreast of it and I'll post more in the thread as it occurs but as-is all we've gotten is a bunch of people who know nothing about marine disasters sharing their 20iq takes on marine disasters, and you've already taken care of that ITT so I don't have to post journalists doing it slightly better

>>372101
Glad to see you still lurk here, sapphire. We all miss you.

>>372103
Basically this. I'm looking for new stuff, but so far there's not much beside garbage takes and regular nonsense.

Although, this >>372076 is particular odd. Worth more investigation as to why.

>>372104
you can always find me on fediverse if you know where to look (any thread that says "+14 more" in the user tags)

>>372106
Pat the Maud

>>372105
Unfortunately its shaping up to be a completely average and boring marine disaster, according to all of my knowledgeable sources it looks like ship lost power, started to drift after it regained power, and interacted with the channel bottom while they had no rudder.

Investigation will likely come up that the ships maintenance was poor, the fuel had issues, or both
https://watch.mommys.plumbing/watch?v=TlIhoxIxM30

>>372108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlIhoxIxM30 YouTube link if you don't trust my invidious instance

>>372108
Tbh, the idea that a bunch of stupid shitskins can through simple incompetence destroy and discombobulate critical pieces of our country's infrastructure is a lot scarier than there being any conspiracy about it...

>>372110
I wouldn't call the Key Bridge "critical infrastructure" most news articles are heavily leaning into the fact that its mostly going to impact niggers commuting to their "jobs"

I would avoid any large bridges over shipping lanes though, add it to the list of things you just don't do anymore next to flying

>>372111
It's shut down the port, and Baltimore port is pretty important to the automobile industry. It has special widened ramps that make it easy to slide cars onto ships, so it won't be easy for cars to simply be moved to another port.
Maybe it's not the most important thing for the country, but it's certainly important to Baltimore.

>>372108
I think just the fact that a foreign owned ship crewed by foreigners was able to take out a bridge and kill several foreigners through what is likely maintenance and engineering failure is pretty significant.

>>372112
oh no Baltimore, city of niggers is going to be mildly inconvenienced (Norfolk is less than a day's sail south and has RoRo facilities as well by the way, they're pretty much standard on any major port)

>>372113
isn't the first time foreign owned transportation crewed by foreigners took out a major American infrastructure project :^)

>>372114
The point still stands. Big mess caused by a bunch of stupid shitskins. Little to actually see, but the fact that fuckups this big can just happen is a tad depressing.

>>372116
Take up the White Man's burden—
Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.

Take up the White Man's burden—
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain.
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden—
The savage wars of peace—
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden—
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper—
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go make them with your living,
And mark them with your dead!

Take up the White Man's burden—
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard—
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:—
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden—
Ye dare not stoop to less
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloak your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden—
Have done with childish days—
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!

>>372109
Let us see. The ship is a mammoth of 100,000 tons with a huge momentum (inertia), the exit channel is 100% straight, so the rudder was fixed at 0 degree angle because there wasn't any need of correct course to exit the port and pass through the bridge's pillars. Then the question is why the ship steered away from his straight course, in other words, given the ship's inertia, it doesn't look possible any deviation at less, the rudder was moved from the command bridge. All which may point at sabotage.

>>372120
I would love to give you some leeway because CN assumed you've been watching his videos and doesn't properly explain interaction effects, but keep in mind that the water surrounding the ship weighs significantly more than the ship and can move it around essentially with impunity (this is how ships move)

I don't know if you graduated high school but if you did, you likely learned about the Bernoulli principle. I'm not going to explain it to you in full but the same channel did two videos that do a very surface level overview of interaction effects within channels:
https://watch.mommys.plumbing/watch?v=mGJa2dAlhDg
https://watch.mommys.plumbing/watch?v=87wND9VLtR8

>>372120
It could be that the idiots simply jerked the steering wheel left and right during the moment where the ship lost profile ion, causing them to go in the wrong direction as soon as it suddenly regained propulsion. An outcome derivative of absolute idiocy.

>>372121
>I would love to give you some leeway because CN assumed you've been watching his videos and doesn't properly explain interaction effects
Give me indeed that leeway, not because I watched any video, but because I took a course in Physics 101.

>>372123
Okay, if you took basic physics you know how fluid dynamics work on a surface level. In a narrow and shallow channel, you can very easily go from high fluid pressure to low fluid pressure by altering the shape of the channel. As explained in the video you had to have watched because you screecapped the part of the video RIGHT AFTER HE TALKED ABOUT IT the Curtis Bay channel opens on the starboard side of the vessel right as they lose power, which would create a lower pressure on that side (less restriction from the channel on that side means the ship isn't "pushing" the water as hard into the sides of the main channel which would pull the ship to starboard, which is exactly how the ship moved.

>>372125
>RIGHT AFTER HE TALKED ABOUT IT the Curtis Bay channel opens on the starboard side of the vessel right as they lose power, which would create a lower pressure on that side
I'm pretty aware of low pressure flows because I read about holes made inside boilers of steam locomotives and how they can improve dramatically thermal efficiency. That said, I estimate that low pressure flow on the channel' side is of not practical consequence against a solid body of 100K tons moving at 10 miles an hour.

>>372127
how much do you think that mass of water weighs around the ship?
I'll give you a hint, if it was less than the weight of the ship, the ship would sink.

>>372128
>how much do you think that mass of water weighs around the ship?
>I'll give you a hint
Density has to compound with speed flow to make the equation significant. Being an inner channel inside a port, I deduce that the water flow speed is near zero.

>>372129
Okay, I'm going to give you one last chance to not be a retard before I stop feeding you attention.
How does a ship move in the water? What does it push on to create propulsion? When you answer that question, ask yourself how Newton's second law of motion applies to that answer and you'll have a much different deduction.

If you want to get technical (and you obviously don't because you're bordering on retarded here) here's a paper measuring bottom shear and the squat effect, which are tangentially related to what we're talking about and have a lot of the numbers you're looking for, even if they apply to the bottom and not so much the sides of a vessel: https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1747340/FULLTEXT01.pdf

>>372130
If none of this helps you understand what I'm talking about, think about how an aircraft wing works and realize its the exact same principle just with a lighter fluid at higher speeds (but Bernoulli teaches us that we can do this and still achieve similar pressure effects)

>>372130
>What does it push on to create propulsion?
The blades push water, every force has a opposite force implied. Then that translates into propulsion.
>PDF
Taking a look at that.

>>372131
>think about how an aircraft wing works and realize its the exact same principle just with a lighter fluid at higher speeds
I'm aware of that anon. Scale plane modeling was my passion for many years.

>>372133
Okay, so I probably don't have to explain the ground effect to you.
Take a wing under ground effect, then remove the ground. You experience a loss of lift, expressible as a force toward the ground, correct?

Turn the entire thing on its side and put it in water and you've got the force I'm describing here.

>>372134
>Okay, so I probably don't have to explain the ground effect to you.
Nope, even I know the soviets ekranoplanes. Bizarre beasts indeed.
>Take a wing under ground effect, then remove the ground. You experience a loss of lift, expressible as a force toward the ground, correct?
Yes.
>Turn the entire thing on its side and put it in water and you've got the force I'm describing here.
You are onto something here. I concede.

>>372135
These forces are extremely well known to mariners and especially to harbor pilots who interact with these static channels every day, and they'd have been corrected for with rudder inputs normally but the ship lost power as it passed the intersecting channel.

100% this was directly caused by a mechanical failure and 50/50 on if they could have saved it if they were better mariners but I doubt it

>>372135
also, on a personal note you are the epitome of late boomer/early gen X dunning-kruger and unless you're actively an expert in a thing you're talking about, you should do a lot less talking about it and a lot more listening. You'll get along with people a lot better and the few times you ARE an expert in something people might actually listen instead of calling you a retard faggot (which 99 times in 100 you probably are with the attitude you've expressed in this thread)

Listen to me or not, it probably won't impact me too much since I'm just here for the happening and the anniversary before I fuck off to 7/11 for smokes for another year

>>372137
I knew it you wouldn't resist to talk down to me.

>>372138
Trust me, anyone around who remembers me will tell you that I'm being about as nice as I ever get.

>>372121
I went boating recently, and I think I recognize this phenomena. I think it's more likely to happen when the boat loses speed (which is why boats tend to swivel if you cut the engine).

>>372140
That's a little different, that's losing the torquing force of the motor and generally only impacts smaller vessels

This is more like when you get passed by a semi on the highway and it pushes your car

>>372141
Ah, I see

>>372139
>>372143
>>372137
Post moar Trixie

Too smug tonight.

>>372144
ol trix is one of the few pony things I still have left after all these years. This bunch, three wall scrolls, my ccg cards, and 2 playmats

>>372147
Based

>>372148
I fucked up with the first image...

>>372147
You need more pony things

>>372150
don't go to cons anymore, don't really interact with the fandom anymore, show ended in the middle of season 5 for me.

I'm happy with the little things I have and the memories I made with my horse friends

>>372151
Have you heard of MareFair?
https://youtu.be/DL5e5-6CpAw?si=DKf4DbnD7IW1wSBn

>>372154
September in Orlando.... I'm close enough and that's far enough out that I could probably swing it. Shame their early access pricing is ending next week though, I just moved so I'm cash strapped

>>372155
>good cause
>no stupid covid rules
>some of my favorite artists are participating
Really the only downside here is the hotel isn't Hilton so I can't burn the points I accumulated recently. You've sold me, consider me there.

>>372156
Based. Many of us are going to be there.

>>372157
Maybe I can finally get Atlas back for throwing that brick at me in 2016

>>372158
Well I wouldn’t really recommend throwing bricks, but I am definitely going to attempt to drag Atlas there

>>372159
tell that fucker sapphire's finally seen kyle and I'll be there

>have to pay extra for soap
yeah its a pony con lmao

Report.

>>372162
Nothing new but nice to see it codified by the feds

Meanwhile on the bridge...

>Pic 1
This is the Mayor of Baltimore…..he runs a city and shieet. I mean do I really need to say anything else?!
>Pic 2
Let’s meet the Commissioners for the Port of Baltimore, starting with Karenthia A Barber. She knows nothing about Ports, but she is a “diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB) auditor and consultant”

>>372167
Yeah Baltimore's a shithole but none of them were maintaining or piloting this ship

>>372168
They may have been responsible for why immediately after maintenance the ship lost power, because they need to cut costs to allow for that budget to go into their pockets instead of the port system.

>>372086
It is derailing when your stupidity prevents you from having basic reading comprehension. It was explained to you multiple times that the ship was legally required to have local pilots, that there were records of those pilots, and that it was normal for them to not be listed among crew. Unfortunately your massive ego combined with your tiny intellect prevented you from understanding this simple point for 20+ posts, by which point the topic of the thread had shifted from "talking about the bridge happening" to "trying to get this annoying boomer who can't read to shut the fuck up and stop posting."

it is a shame that you still post here after years of being told nobody here likes you or your reddit-lite antics. you are not wanted. you are not welcome. you are not one of us, and you never will be.

>>372092
>get used to get push-back in your threads
being too retarded to even understand a basic conversation, much less meaningfully contribute to a thread, is not the same as "pushing back". don't kid yourself.

>>372166
Great video.

>>372170
Ports don't do maintenance. You don't blame the gas station when your car breaks down in their parking lot except for very specific failures

>>372200
Idk, it's really looking like an accident.
Even if it hypothetically weren't one, who stands to benefit from this? It messes with Baltimore's economy, but not cripplingly so. Nobody important was injured in the accident. It hasn't caused widespread panic in ways that terror attacks are supposed to. Nothing of note is grounded in the port other than a some cars.
If there were evidence of conspiracy I'd entertain the thought, but it feels like grasping at straws.

>>372206
Well, yesterday I didn't want to irritate any longer that anon arguing with me about the physics of flow pressure, but I must argue that that ship is the size of a Nimitz class aircarrier and making it turn more than 30 degrees in just 4 minutes (as shown in the screenshots from the post with trips >>372000 ) it may take a hard movement of the rudder.
- 1st pic: 01:24:45
- 2nd pic: 01:26:49
- 3rd pic: 01:28:42
Additionally we have the curious detail of the missing Ukrainian captain and the issue that the pilots still remain anonymous, being they key eye-witnesses.

>>372208
>missing Ukrainian captain
Probably scrubbed on direction of the glowniggers, who didn't want anything public that could be used by Russians to spread anti-ukraine sentiment. Either that or it would be investigation/liability/insurance stuff.

>>372208
As much as I love conspiracy explanations, there are a couple of events that happened to make the turn make sense, especially compared to other accidents. First, they appear the throw the ship into reverse. People have pointed out smoke that suggests they might have tried full throttle against their momentum. Second, they sent out a mayday to the shore and bridge to try and prevent more damage, which suggests they are trying to not fucking hit the thing in their way and going to cause them to be sued. Third, regardless of the captain, there are still shitskins holding the wheel and Costa Concordia learned firsthand what happens when they are steering under the command of someone other than their nationality. They can't understand what port and starboard mean outside their language and dialect, especially under pressure.

I agree that it moved way too fucking fast to not have been steered into it, but I think they turned the wrong way and the captain tried to reverse because the crew was too stupid to turn correctly.

>>372210
>conspiracy explanations
Nah. This is a /mlpol/ investigation.

>>372211
its conspiracy explanation because you desperately need something to tinfoil about, so you ignore hours of explanation in favor of your uninformed sperging.

open your eyes sheeple

>>372212
>so you ignore hours of explanation in favor of your uninformed sperging
>hours of explanation
Actually is disregarding hollow State narrative by on the water facts. In is on video, the fast rate of turning points at deliberate terrorism.

>>372214
>deliberate terrorism
If the point were terrorism, people would be terrorized. Nobody is panicking.
And terrorism for what?
>hollow State narrative
Face-value understanding.

>>372215
Wait a minute. Should I understand that you put more credibility on the same people lying to you for years? Even to the point of denying what your eyes are seeing on video?

>>372217
Honestly, if the choices are believing you and believing glowniggers, I'd still be inclined to believe the glowniggers

>>372218
It is settled then. You are here just for cockbloking and not for the truth.
Bad poner.

>>372217
>credibility
It is not a question of credibility. I can see the reality in front of me.
>denying what your eyes are seeing on video?
I came to this conclusion based on the videos.

>>372219
your batshit retarded opinion based on some twitter screenshots and your complete lack of understanding of the subject matter is not "the truth"

Mare

>>372217
I find it fascinating that this stupid fuck is still mindlessly ranting about a topic he knows absolutely nothing about. You have made zero meaningful points here beyond "i dink dis wut hapun cuz da gubmind iz bad!"

Why do boomers insist on pretending to be experts on things they are completely clueless about? You clearly have no experience in maritime travel and sailing. Why do you think your unfounded, uneducated, and simple-minded guesswork is worth sharing with us? Your ego and lack of self-awareness is genuinely disgusting, and low IQ whites like yourselves are the reason the west in on its knees. I hope you don't breed. Fuck you.

>>372229
>You clearly have no experience in maritime travel and sailing
I strongly beg to disagree.
>Why do you think your unfounded, uneducated, and simple-minded guesswork is worth sharing with us?
It goes both ways. Would you share your skills with us?

>>372233
I'm not the one making sweeping and unfounded claims about the topic at hand, my experience is not relevant. I hope one day you finally get the message that absolutely nobody on this site wants to talk to you. Filtered.

>>372213
What is this, an image for ants?

>>372235
go screenshot google news yourself for a stupid joke if you don't like it

>>372239
except the harbor pilots

>>372240
The harbor pilots aren't victims. Nobody on the ship was harmed.

>>372248
A potentially 10/10 meem ruined by some nigger babble monkey gibberish and Tick Tock