/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

Port's Closed

This is going to suck economically for everyone who lives in Baltimore, and a lot of the rest of the country
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/community/transportation/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-shuts-down-port-UWTGE4KLJ5HUXDX2OTEETMW3EY/

>Two people have been rescued from the water
>Divers are still searching for others in the water
>1 person hospitalized
>President Joe Biden has been briefed on the collapse
>He will continue to receive updates from his team throughout the day
>An unclassified Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency report said the container ship Dali "lost propulsion" as it was leaving port and warned Maryland officials of a possible collision.
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries
>The company said the 22 crew members, including the pilots, were based in India.
>Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg said in a statement that he’s spoken with local officials to offer support.
>Maryland Gov. Wes Moore has declared a state of emergency following the collapse of the Francis Scott Key Bridge
Local live updates
https://www.wbaltv.com/article/baltimore-bridge-collapse-key-bridge/60303975

Dali-chan

>>371980
If it was only a loss of propulsion, then the crash probably should not have happened. It should have still had navigation with rudder and the ability to slow down with anchor. If they don’t want to admit there was a total power failure to the bridge, that would explain why they couldn’t have navigated at all.

That is if they weren’t going too fast towards the fucking bridge like retards and lost their propeller so they couldn’t turn enough to avoid it and couldn’t slow down with an anchor. That would also mean that they were likely to crash regardless because they were counting on Tokyo Drifting their ship.

>>371983
Can we just ban Indians from leaving India already?

>>371985
That would be ideal. They have the greatest access to one of the most powerful nuclear power components ever, Thorium, and they can’t figure out how to use it. They could actually reach modern living standards with all of that, but they actively refuse to live civilized.

CNN just released the captain's photo

>>371974
Shieet.

Sabotage might be.

>>371992
it is crazy how they managed to miss all the open water and hit the one object in the water around them

>>371993
Indeed. Now all the port terminals are blocked.

>>371992
Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that. A competent crew wouldn't have put themselves in such a situation, but this wasn't a competent crew.

This is the competence crisis in action. The replacement of competent white workers with untrained foreign shitskins means the collapse of complex systems. Shipping accidents like this are one of the most visible symptoms. You can expect more and more of these kinds of accidents in the future.

>>371997
especially if they didn't lose emergency power since iirc emergency power on most ships can control the rudders

>>371997
>Suddenly regaining propulsion after temporary losing it will do that.
I found a clip showing how those pajeets steered the ship straight to the pillar once allegedly regaining power. It looks on purpose to me.

>>372000
you know they had two local pilots controlling the vessel at the time, right?

>>372000
>>371999
It's not do much of the loss of steering as it is the sudden regain of propulsion. The stupid jeets just fiddled with the steering wheel and jerked it in random directions because they thought their ship was going to be shut down for hours: it's the same kind of mistake 15 year old drivers makes, and demonstrates a complete lack of training and competence, all in the name of "diversity" of course.
If you listen to the audio, it's painfully clear that this is the result of unfathomable idiocy.

>>372001
In theory might be. But a named source confirming that would be useful.

>>372003
source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot

but here's one that explicitly states it anyway: https://www.businessinsider.com/what-we-know-dali-francis-scott-crash-collapse-maryland-bridge-2024-3

>>372004
>source: international maritime law. its illegal to operate in most ports without a pilot
I understand that, but it needs confirmation that a named American national was on board and being responsible when the incident happened.

>>372003
Go to the website. They have names. You could hear them shouting back and fourth as they floundered like children.

>>372005
There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets. Scroll up in the thread.

>>372005
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/
Port of Baltimore isn't gonna release shit about these guys until the IMO investigation is over but pilots are required to be trained on the specific individual waterway that they are solely responsible for so I'm willing to bet pretty much any amount of money they live within driving distance of Baltimore

>>372007
>There were no responsible Americans on the ship. Just pajeets.
Then there was NOT any pilot on board.

>>372007
Pilots aren't part of the ship's crew, they hop on specifically to help navigate their home waterway (in this case, Baltimore Harbor and its surroundings)

>>372009
You're going to have to post proof of that because the company that owns the ship stated 2 pilots were aboard

https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372010
Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks for pointing that out.

>>372011
Dude, if only brown foreigners were on board when the incident happened, then there was not any pilot on board. Obvious logic and simple semantic comprehension on your part might help.

>>372013
Again, pilots are not considered part of the ship's crew, they're on loan from the harbor.
There are no "logic" and "semantic comprehensions" here, maritime communication is standardized and words don't have alternative meanings
https://web.archive.org/web/20150316133401/https://www.imo.org/ourwork/safety/navigation/pages/standardmarinecommunicationphrases.aspx

>>372014
You don't get it yet.
You are sticking to a theoretical set of rules for every ship to follow. But the point here is that apparently those rules were not followed.

>>372015
and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that, because its not "a single ship fucking up" if they don't have local pilots, its "a major fucking violation of laws + the harbor would have to be complicit in breaking their own rules"
Doesn't make sense, wouldn't happen, didn't happen.

>>372015
>>372013
Are you trying to claim that the ship had no pilot at all? The ship can't operate without a pilot, legally or physically. The pajeets wouldn't have even been able to get it to Baltimore.
The pilot's name should be published somewhere. Go look it up instead of speculating.

>>372016
>and again, you're going to need to post some sort of proof for that
I follow the news mentioning 22 pajeet crew members, all accounted and well. Not even one mentions an American national on board.

>>372019
Pilots aren't part of the crew.

>>372020
A pilot should be present on board. Not a single mention of him or his name can be found.

>>372021
The captain was a Ukrainian guy. It's been mentioned. I saw it earlier, but don't have his name atm.
>Not a single mention of him or his name can be found
That's not true.

>>372022
>That's not true.
Link?

>>372021
the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots. Again, their employer (the port of Baltimore, in all likelihood) isn't gonna say SHIT about their guys who may or may not have been involved in destroying a multibillion dollar bridge until they have to for the IMO investigation

>>372024
>the official statement OF THE COMPANY mentions pilots.
Link?

>>372023
>>372025
Go look it up. I'm at work. Why do you keep asking questions when you haven't bothered to search it?

>>372025
its the same one you've been quoting for 22 pajeets
>All crew members, including the two pilots have been accounted for and there are no reports of any injuries.
>including the two pilots
https://www.synergymarinegroup.com/dali-imo-9697428/

>>372026
>Go look it up.
Okay, I found it.
https://nationalfile.com/all-indian-crew-manned-ship-that-took-down-francis-scott-key-bridge/

>>372028
Good then.

>>372028
Pilots still aren't crew bud

>>372028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ this source also claims a Maryland bay pilot on board (3:24)

>>372028
you're a fucking knuckle dragging retard, please stop posting here and kill yourself

>>372031
The Dali experienced a momentary loss of propulsion, said the Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore, citing the vessel’s manager and operator, Synergy Marine. As a result, the ship was unable to maintain its desired heading.

“The vessel was reported to have dropped its anchors as part of the vessel’s emergency procedures prior to its impact with the bridge,” the Singapore port authority said. “The vessel was under pilotage at the time of the incident.”

>>372033
https://www.mpa.gov.sg/media-centre/details/investigators-from-the-transport-safety-investigation-bureau-and-mpa-are-making-their-way-to-baltimore--maryland here's a direct source on that Port Authority of Singapore statement

>>372031
That's a good info.
>>372032
KYS

>>372035
unfortunately friend it looks like there was one, if not two highly experienced American mariners aboard this ship
Its ok though, you can still blame the jeets because it was probably their inability to maintain an engine that did her in

>>372035
>too dumb to do a simple google search
>too dumb to understand multiple people telling him that local pilots would have been aboard the ship, and they would not be listed as members of the crew
>too dumb to even know that you are dumb, so you kept insisting to everyone that you were right despite being completely uninformed
what the actual fuck is wrong with you? why do you even bother posting here? you contribute nothing. you are embarrassing.

>>372037
Nice welcome to /mlpol/ /s
No wonder that with exceptional anons like you, most already left in shame.

>>372038
>/s
fuck off back to reddit, faggot. you do not belong here.

is this the company who owned the freighter?
https://twitter.com/SynergyGroup06/status/1771784988196823495

>>372041
ships are complicated when it comes to ownership.
They were the managers, which means they operated the ship, usually on behalf of an owner (Grace Ocean Pte Ltd) The management company then charters the ship out (in this case, to Maersk)

>>372042
if ships were real estate, then Synergy Group was the bitchy apartment property manager

>>372037
I swear this room-temperature IQ boomer shits up every single thread I make.

>372038
Nigger

Photos released of the captain:
https://vxtwitter.com/StealRite_Blink/status/1772663182668013684

>>372046
Nothing will happen, he will get away with it

>>372050
they are only referring to the city and less taxes and toll payments.
Texas and Florida meanwhile will get more trade flow.

>>372051
I really don't think the port makes 15m a day in toll payments...

>>372050
"the economy" means its fake kike money on a spreadsheet

>>372053
A lot of trade goes through the port of Baltimore. See >>371976

>>372054
its like the 6th largest port on the east coast and there are only like 8 or 9. Norfolk is less than 200mi away.

>>372055
That's a lot of money.

>>372056
moving the 1000 TEU or so of traffic from Baltimore is gonna be a rounding error on Goldstein and Finkelblatt Shipping's accounting book

Don't worry goy they'll pass the full "cost" on to you and then sue the responsible party for it later

>>372057
plus its "the economy" so they're counting every bullshit factor from lost tourism to niggers having to spend an extra half gallon of gas to drive around Baltimore

>>372057
I think the people with tht 155,000 jobs involved will feel the effects.
Not saying it's the end of the world, just saying that this fuckup did a ton of damage.

>>372059
Its about a tenth of that friendo, the 140k auxiliary jobs your news article likely pulled from this press release https://mpa.maryland.gov/Press%20Releases/Press02232024.pdf are things like truckers who pass through the port

>>372059
I don't think it was an accident

>>372044
if he is a repeat offender, why is he not banned? he did nothing in this thread but derail it for hours with his 45 IQ takes. i miss old /pol/ where stupid people, shills, and kikes were banned on sight.

>>372068
I don't think old /pol/ actually banned idiots on sight: The mods were never really on our side. It's just that fewer stupid people were attracted to it due to lower popularity, and the oldfags were more keen to rebuke, or more importantly ignore, idiots bots and shills back in the day.
These days the oldfags and people who actually lurked for a year before posting are so outnumbered and disenfranchised that they're basically powerless to stop the idiots, shills, and bots as they are to stop the newfags and redditors who engage said posts. It was especially bad around 2016-2017 (when this board was made) as the election pulled in a lot of new flags, and hot even worse around 2020-2021 as the pandemic gave normies a lot more free time to make their way to imageboards, and in the time of heightened skepticism fringe right wing communities were a bit overly welcome to retards who were being drawn there to speak freely over vax skepticism and lockdowns (which is a good thing to discuss), and didn't consider the consequences of letting retards into the communities just because they happened agree on a handful of issues...
This community was created to escape normies and retards that infested /pol/, however, around ~2021, it became clear that because our community is small it's easy for one or two especially obnoxious retards to alter the overall tone of the board through volume alone.

>>372068
Unfortunately being a faggot retard isn't against the rules
t. wrote the rules

>>372072
I was there when the rules were written too.
He's broken a lot of the other rules lots of times though.

>>372073
have you used your report button or have you whined in the thread and let it be?

Before: https://archive.is/lkVU2
After: https://www.balticshipping.com/vessel/imo/9697428/seafarers
Shipmaster records are being scrubbed.

>>372072
on old /pol/ being such a retard/faggot that you derailed threads and made board quality measurably worse was, in fact, against the rules. and that was a good thing.

>>372077
Good point

>>372072
Derailing really should be against the rules.

>>372084
Rule 10 IS derailing

>>372077
>>372079
>>372084
Knock it off. It was not derailing, but to explore a new angle.
You people are so dishonest as to outright mischaracterize a different approach in order to get the staff to censor free-thinkers. Very jewy of you.

>>372085
Rule 10 is strategic application of rule 3.
You should only be allowed to derail with mares.

>>372086
>mischaracterize
Nigger, you have been acting like this for three years, and we all recognize your posting style by now. Nobody is falling for your attempts to play yourself as the victim anymore.

>>372086
Don't get me wrong by the way, you're still a retarded nigger, I was just a lot more libertarian when I had any sort of power here so I pushed for your right to be a retarded nigger.

One of my bigger regrets in life

>>372089
>I pushed for your right to be a retarded nigger.
>One of my bigger regrets in life
Same boat, m8. I was naive...

Have a mare

>>372090
2016 was a turning point in a lot of our lives and we never realized it

>>372088
>>372089
Get a thicker skin and get used to get push-back in your threads.
This board is not your exclusive playground, I'm part of the community as well and I will be here forever.

>>372092
Then quit acting like a nigger, and maybe people will stop complaining.