They started the war. what can I say, they should have won instead of losing to malnourished jewish farmers armed with light guns mate. you don't get to start a war and whine if you lose it and lose land. ask germany about Königsberg.>which one is it?>Well, I can admit that both things were wrong
..>but the fact that the justification of the destruction of arab homes is what other ethnicities did is the most blatant bullshit i can ever imagine
What? it's not a justification . justification? it was war (that _they_ declared) mate, that what happens.>palestinians arab don't owe anything to the european jews for what europeans did to them
where did I say that? there were Jews in ""palestine"" long before Israel was founded . BUT the reality is that Jews _were_ haunted in Europe and the Jewish homeland was the only place to go. yeah it's sad that it came on the expense of the local arabs who lived there but then again this isn't a factor from anyone running away from war and genocide.
Also, what Palestinians? the area was under British control. the Arabs had no say in the matter whatsoever. (and in fact the brits tried to stop and block jewish immigration from europe).>point is different ethnicities living together will lead to clashes, riots and massacres
I agree.>had it been a need from middle eastern jews to separate to avoid such conflicts i would understand and give some credit to
Well, that's the thing, they would never have any chance without outside help but that doesn't make their cause less right. both stem from the same logic (the need for safe jewish homeland). so it doesn't matter that zionist movement was heralded by european jews.
Also I cbb to look now, but I do remember from school about such movements and sentiment even in early ottoman times.>how is it double standard if they DO consider it illegal
I meant in the media. I haven't heard anyone talks about the "cypriot right of return" or calls for Turkey to withdraw.
I mean, the very idea is downright preposterous and unthinkable for them. yet we gave up Sinai peninsula (3x times the size of Israel) for a meaningless peace treaty with Egypt because of Russo-American pressure.
And gaza.. and South Lebanon etc.. the thought of any Muslim nation giving up land is unthinkable for them, simple as that.
No one puts any real pressure on Turkey.
So yes, there is a double standard.
The patrols around the borders is because they're trying to redraw maritime borders to steal gas deposits in the med. from greece and cyprus.
Not that I think any of that will help. Turkey will get what it wants becasue greeks are cucks and no one will help them when shtf.>does any western state put sanction or import bans on israel like they do Iran?
not yet but def. possible in the next 10-20 years as europe and america turns into prog-left.
And there are sanctions and boycotts on any settlement products, so..>yeah and i can't count how many times fox news is giving distorted narratives that benefit israel
American media ≠ worldwide media.>i think you have selection bias over medias representation of israel
Same to you, I remember in 2014 during the war the coverage in MSM (sans fox and conservative media) showing livestream of gaza getting pounded and crying about the ""genocide in gaza"".
Also in 2006 during the Lebanon war CNN/NBC airing lebanese propaganda nonstop.
Not even talking about european local channels or F24 which are basically Palestinian networks.>has the media been covering the mistreatment of muslim in myanmar
Quite a bit I think? not in the same capacity perhaps, but myanmar was sanctioned.
Also I have been hearing about the 'muslim concentration camps" in china nonstop in the past few months, and I don't see too many muslim nations caring too much.
if we'd even try to pull the shit china is doing we'd be under invasion by now.
interests and $>morals.>you say that the media coverage is pro muslim/arab but i don't think so
No, I meant that it mostly anti Israel, not necessarily pro muslim/arab. they'll take whatever side is against israel, doesn't matter if it's palestine or a non arab coutry. not because of muh antisemitism, I think it has more to do with their pro immigration/globalist propaganda rather than something specific to us, since israeli policies so contrasted to current european state of mind.>water and arable land is the bigger bottleneck than phosphate
it's still worth a ton of $.
also it might be a desert, but it's still 266,000 km² of desert. 12 times the size of israel. if other countries join the U.S. in recognition it means that it will officially turn morocco into nearly twice its size.
That's the equivalent of Israel annexing Syria and Jordan combined.
So yeah it's still pretty crazy if they actually get away with it.